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Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by paxys on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @06:32PM (#33428578)
> Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT...

> Almost all made famous by YouTube.

I looked the top 50 in that list and maybe ~5 of them are what you describe. The rest are big music labels, TV channels, artists and other such independently popular figures, not very different from Twitter.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by koonsolo on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @06:48PM (#33428784)
PewDiePie, MrBeast, Kids Diana Show, Like Nastya, Vlad and Niki in top 10.

Great trolling.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by minhazm on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @07:50PM (#33429510)
Unclear why this is getting downvoted, it is accurate statement. Only 20 of the top 50 channels are not brands. Of those 20 if you exclude music channels like BTS, Blackpink, Justin Bieber, etc. you're only left with 10 channels.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by evan_ on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:56PM (#33431274)
Justin Bieber came to prominence via YouTube.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by JKCalhoun on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:58PM (#33431283)
Wait, didn’t Justin Bieber get his start on YouTube?
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by thaumasiotes on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:24AM (#33431702)
And if you exclude people like that, it turns out nobody becomes famous on YouTube.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by filoleg on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:11AM (#33436079)
Well yeah. If you exclude people like him who got famous on YouTube, then it, indeed, will turn out that nobody becomes famous on YouTube. I have zero idea what your point is trying to illustrate.

What's so special about Justin Bieber that disqualifies him from counting as someone who became famous on YouTube?

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by alphabetting on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @12:29AM (#33431452)
I think the point still stands. 6 of the top 10 on Youtube got their large followings being making content for Youtube. 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by thaumasiotes on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:26AM (#33431707)
> 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets.

Why limit yourself to the top 50? 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets. Tweets are, by design, unsuitable for publishing content. They're useful for advertising content you publish somewhere else.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by koonsolo on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:26AM (#33432310)
I know for (indie) games, twitter is a lagging indicator. That means you don't get famous through twitter, but twitter is a lagging indicator of the success on Steam. I can look up the source of this statement if you're interested.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by thaumasiotes on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:40AM (#33432404)
I don't really see the relevance? We can rephrase your comment as "if people like your game, sometimes they follow your Twitter account".

That's just an example of using Twitter to advertise your other content.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by koonsolo on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:17AM (#33432656)
Marketing wise the difference is huge. Say you release a new game, and want to know which marketing channels to focus on. As it turns out, Twitter will not give you much new customers that haven't come into contact with your game before.

I agree with you that once you have those followers, you can leverage that with other content. But building up your audience mainly needs to happen through other channels.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by neweroldguy on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:11AM (#33435132)
Thanks for clarifying, this is an insightful interpretation.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by rasz on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @06:00AM (#33433454)
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Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by TheRealDunkirk on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:15AM (#33435205)
Yeah, the only analog bouncing around my brain are accounts like that one, and, say, SwiftOnSecurity. There are people who are really big within a particular niche, and become a "sun" within a solar system. I'm blocked from both of those accounts, but I don't know why. (It's odd, because I usually avoid strong comments of ANY kind). The net effect on this sort of behavior on traffic patterns at Twitter works out quite a bit differently than on YouTube. You probably wouldn't block people on YouTube for the same comment you see on Twitter, and when you do it on Twitter, you're hard-limiting your audience.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by philwelch on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:13AM (#33435172)
> 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets.

This is false.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by camel_Snake on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @12:36PM (#33438620)
Anecdotal but Lil Nas X was very well known on twitter before he got popular. I recognized his handle from screenshots and made the connection only after Old Town Road came out.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by MisterSandman on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:59AM (#33431865)
Justin Bieber literally got his start from YouTube. BTS and Black pink would also not be as popular as they are without YouTube.

The original comment was a bit miseleading, but you have to admit that there is no equivalent to Pewdiepie on Twitter.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by threeseed on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:31AM (#33432343)
> BTS and Black pink

They would still be popular though.

YouTube hasn't even been that popular in South Korea until recently.

Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by filoleg on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:03AM (#33435942)
BTS was popular in SK way before they got big on YouTube. But their massive explosion of popularity in the west (and outside of SK in general) happened perfectly in sync with them getting big on YouTube.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by posix86 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:42AM (#33432419)
You might be right, but in general, most famous channels on youtube are famous bcs of youtube.
Re:Twitter Blue for $8/Month by mrweasel on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:33AM (#33432752)
It's VERY different in the way that Twitter is dominated by the US. YouTube, while heavily favoring India and to some extend the US, is much more mix in regards to country of origin.

I agree with the observation that Twitter is for people who are already famous, especially those made famous by US media. YouTube seems to at least allow for creators to build their own following and more importantly: Make money off their work.