Justin Bieber came to prominence via YouTube.

Wait, didn’t Justin Bieber get his start on YouTube?

And if you exclude people like that, it turns out nobody becomes famous on YouTube.

Well yeah. If you exclude people like him who got famous on YouTube, then it, indeed, will turn out that nobody becomes famous on YouTube. I have zero idea what your point is trying to illustrate.

What's so special about Justin Bieber that disqualifies him from counting as someone who became famous on YouTube?

I think the point still stands. 6 of the top 10 on Youtube got their large followings being making content for Youtube. 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets.

> 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets.

Why limit yourself to the top 50? 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets. Tweets are, by design, unsuitable for publishing content. They're useful for advertising content you publish somewhere else.

I know for (indie) games, twitter is a lagging indicator. That means you don't get famous through twitter, but twitter is a lagging indicator of the success on Steam. I can look up the source of this statement if you're interested.

I don't really see the relevance? We can rephrase your comment as "if people like your game, sometimes they follow your Twitter account".

That's just an example of using Twitter to advertise your other content.

Marketing wise the difference is huge. Say you release a new game, and want to know which marketing channels to focus on. As it turns out, Twitter will not give you much new customers that haven't come into contact with your game before.

I agree with you that once you have those followers, you can leverage that with other content. But building up your audience mainly needs to happen through other channels.

Thanks for clarifying, this is an insightful interpretation.

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Yeah, the only analog bouncing around my brain are accounts like that one, and, say, SwiftOnSecurity. There are people who are really big within a particular niche, and become a "sun" within a solar system. I'm blocked from both of those accounts, but I don't know why. (It's odd, because I usually avoid strong comments of ANY kind). The net effect on this sort of behavior on traffic patterns at Twitter works out quite a bit differently than on YouTube. You probably wouldn't block people on YouTube for the same comment you see on Twitter, and when you do it on Twitter, you're hard-limiting your audience.

> 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets.

This is false.

Anecdotal but Lil Nas X was very well known on twitter before he got popular. I recognized his handle from screenshots and made the connection only after Old Town Road came out.

Justin Bieber literally got his start from YouTube. BTS and Black pink would also not be as popular as they are without YouTube.

The original comment was a bit miseleading, but you have to admit that there is no equivalent to Pewdiepie on Twitter.

> BTS and Black pink

They would still be popular though.

YouTube hasn't even been that popular in South Korea until recently.

BTS was popular in SK way before they got big on YouTube. But their massive explosion of popularity in the west (and outside of SK in general) happened perfectly in sync with them getting big on YouTube.