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Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by joe_the_user on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:57PM (#33416393)
Would the number of cores in a GPU level off? It seems like intensive computing of all sort will migrate to gpgpu programming.
Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by ummonk on Monday October 31, 2022 @11:36PM (#33416604)
Seems like the latest Nvidia GPUs aren't really an improvement over the previous ones, but just bigger and proportionally more expensive. So maybe the leveling off in performance is already starting to happen.
Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by brokenmachine on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @12:51AM (#33417080)
That is not true.

The 4090 uses less power than a 3080ti while being 63% faster.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-f...

, and 45% better performance than a 3090ti while using 2% less power (at 4k).

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-f...

Can't find the link now, but I saw a youtube video where they did an analysis of it at different wattage limits and it performed very nicely.

4090 draws a lot of power, but Nvidia has just chosen to work at the diminishing returns end of the curve.

It's a halo product for people who will pay for the top of the range. I mean, look at the price!

Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by Traubenfuchs on Monday October 31, 2022 @11:06PM (#33416447)
Shrinking has almost stopped too and you can only make a chip that big before it runs into other constraints.
Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by plasticchris on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @02:13AM (#33417609)
The wafer scale computing folks would disagree...
Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by Traubenfuchs on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @06:12PM (#33428332)
Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by singularity2001 on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @02:35AM (#33417743)
There is a lot of room for development before the exponential curve can be carried by the next paradigm: at least for desktop computers we are still decades away from case filling 3D "compute cubes".
Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by brazzy on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @05:15AM (#33418752)
It's quite possible that kind of thing has hard limits set by cooling.
Re:Chip Design Shifts as Fundamental Laws Run Out of Steam by singularity2001 on Thursday November 10, 2022 @06:35AM (#33545031)
sure but usually before hard limits are reached a new paradigm is ready to take over