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Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by hnick on Monday October 31, 2022 @07:37PM (#33414940)
I feel like the push to make software accessible (in a new-user, not disability, context) and intuitive has made complexity the enemy. Instead of having software that grows with the user's capability, features are hidden from the top layer of interactivity or just cut entirely.

I was at the post office here in Australia a few years ago and saw the screen. It was one of those DOS-era full screen red and blue text interfaces. She was flying through hotkeys and getting things done. People can learn, so much software treats them as infants.

And you know there's definitely someone looking at replacing that software with a modern GUI.

Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by worthless-trash on Monday October 31, 2022 @08:54PM (#33415599)
For future reference (and anyone following along later), that is an "ncurses" terminal application.

You should see the customized JBHIFI terminal + keyboard.

Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by fragmede on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:33PM (#33416236)
what are those? searching for JBHIFI terminal only brings up a store in Australia of that name selling square POS terminals.

Bloomberg terminals also have a custom keyboard and are essentially a terminal program.

Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by hnick on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:51PM (#33416359)
Yeah JB Hi-Fi is a local retailer in Aus (guessing it's like a Best Buy but a strong focus on music CDs originally), it's probably a reference to the software the staff uses. Haven't had a chance to look over their shoulder at that one.
Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by happymellon on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @12:59AM (#33417140)
So should we be doing demos in Bash, with an ncurses or gum workflow before going back to write the proper system in C?
Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by worthless-trash on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:11PM (#33431029)
I dont see the problem with this. What is "Gum workflow" in this context ?
Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by happymellon on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:27AM (#33432319)
Neither do I.

It was supposed to be read:

A [ncurses or gum] workflow.

Gum being an alternative method of making a Bash UI.

https://github.com/charmbracelet/gum

Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by worthless-trash on Monday November 07, 2022 @06:41PM (#33514136)
Thanks, thats a neat tool!
Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by worthless-trash on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:10PM (#33431018)
I dont seem to have a shot of the terminal app, but I do for the keyboard:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fLeDNp8rU7wN7siXA

Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by BigJono on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:59PM (#33416410)
I did an internship there like 10 years ago at the end of my uni course, where one of my projects was to do a proof of concept of re-implementing their point-of-sale application using web technologies, maintaining the DOS-y look, feel, keyboard shortcuts etc.

At the time I had no idea why. In hindsight, it's hilarious. I'm guessing it was the result of a clash between someone that wanted to use modern tech for the sake of it and someone representing the users that told them to get fucked, probably went through 15 meetings before eventually getting palmed off on the intern so it didn't pick up too much steam (probably the only good decision that was made in the whole process).

Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by djmips on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @02:02AM (#33417543)
I remember that being a key difference between the graphical / modelling software SoftImage and Maya. With the former a TUI and the latter a GUI. The Maya approach won out because getting new people productive quickly was more important than their longer term productivity it seems. Maybe it has something to do with turnover but maybe there are people who can do good creative work but can't adapt to using a TUI or at least are frightened of it.
Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by JoBrad on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @01:24PM (#33424294)
I think you’re onto something with this. SAP power users can input data at blazing speeds, because they remember so many of the codes. So this definitely isn’t just a GUI vs TUI paradigm.