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Re:Exposure to environmental toxins may be root of rise in n... by oifjsidjf on Monday October 24, 2022 @12:46PM (#33319071)
>> The mystery behind the astronomical rise in neurological disorders like Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s could be caused by exposure to environmental toxins that are omnipresent yet poorly understood, leading doctors warn.

Keto/low carb/and especially fasting+lowcarb was shown to help in many of these diseases.

This article smells like misdirection away from sugar which is a poison which our kids eat in insane quantaties.

It's because of fructose (sugar) that fatty liver disease and T2 diabetes, which was once a disease that only appeared in adult alchoholics, now also happens in children and non-alchoholic adults: ~1980 was the 1st known case of a kid getting fatty liver.

One study found a quick way to eliminate fatty liver in kids: replacing 10% to 15% of carb calories of fructose with glucose.

Fat + fructose is also particulary dangerous, though the issue is not fat but fructose, it's just that when you combine them the negative effects of fructose get much, much more severe.

What does alzheimer and cancer have in common? Both cells have damaged mitchochondria. The difference between neurons and non-neuron cells in other parts of the body is that neurons do not have the ability to use the Warburg effect since they are missing some glycolictic machinery in order for that to happen. This is why neurons cannot go "full cancer" like other cells in the body and just "die peacefully": BUT that deaths might then create negative side effects later.

One video below clearly shows that cancer is NOT caused by mutations of the nucleus of the cell, so this theory seems to be totaly wrong. It seems to be related to damaged mitochondria due to way too much fructose and glucose.

This ties in well why people had total cancer remission with water fasting + keto.

Also many people have that amyloid plaque in the brain and yet have zero dementia, so there goes the amyloid plaque theory.

In a way you could say that all of these diseases are "diabetes of the cells", just expressed in different forms.

High sugar load also causes high blood pressure through uric acid production -> this blocks N20 production in blood vesseles -> and there goes your ability to regulate blood pressure out through the window.

(I myself cured my own high blood pressure just be elimnating all processed sweets, I still eat tons of salt, I experimented with ~10 to 20g of salt per day and still had a blood pressure in the ~125/75 range, but before on processed sweets it was ~145/95).

Overconsumption of fructose (therefore sugar) seems to be the main cause. Even if you remove fructose (and sugar) from the human diet we humans never ate a high carb diet until the last 10k years ago when we started growing grains.

While glucose (eg starchy food like oats and potatoes) is less damaging than fructose (thus sugar) it's still not harmless.

Those who are interested in this topic can view these sources:

One can also find examples of full cancer remision in these links (TLRD: water fasting for ~5-7 days than a keto diet). One can more examples of this on the net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXiQgTZZqPg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK0BkTPUGQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJQn6WZGAQ0

Re:Exposure to environmental toxins may be root of rise in n... by Melatonic on Monday October 24, 2022 @02:38PM (#33320603)
You have some good points here but I think you may be missing the middle link - sugar is bad (and can be proven in the short term) but my personal theory is that one of the contributing factors to alzheimers (not necessarily the sole cause) is a yet to be identified autoimmune disorder. And overconsumption of sugar (and also lack of proper prebiotic fibers) will greatly mess up peoples immune systems through the gut bacteria pathway.
Re:Exposure to environmental toxins may be root of rise in n... by oifjsidjf on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:57PM (#33322596)
>> is a yet to be identified autoimmune disorder

These things didn't exist ~120 years ago. So even if it as autoimmune disease it's caused by something new: and this all started (and can be healed to a certain or complete degree) via sugar elimination.

So "autoimmune disease" is downstream from sugar consumption.

Also, most of what we call "autoimmune disease" is BS: eg when they say that T1 diabetes is autoimmune they actually found damaged protein in the pancreas cells and the immune system was actually saving the pancrease from those damaged proteins.

But if the diet is bad those damaged proteins will keep being shuffled there: so it's not the immune system that hurts you: it's the chronic poisoning of tissue with stuff that should not be there -> then over time the immune system does some colleteral damage which compounds due to the chronic toxicity -> so the problem is chronic toxicity, not "autoimmune".

The same is true for arthritis: you can find stuff that should not be in the joint capsule there for people with arthtiris: the immune system then over time does some damage as it tries to save the joint from the foreign bodies which are chronicaly accumulated.

TLDR: autoimmune disease is mostly pure BS, it's chronic toxicity. It's just that we know how to detect white blood cells (WBC) betters in the blood than other (yet unknown) substances.

BUt just because you see a higher WBC count doesn't mean it's autoimmune: it's just that you can't find the real reason why WBC are activated.

About the gut: modern processed food is so unnatural that it destroys the gut barrier -> so again, not an autoimmune disease, but a pure food induced disease.

The stuff starts leaking from the gut into the blood which poisons the body (and the liver primarly, but from the liver it spreads into the blood).

Re:Exposure to environmental toxins may be root of rise in n... by sdeep27 on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:06PM (#33322671)
What’s your take on non processed high sugar food? Fruits, honey, etc.

I’m someone that is very anti processed foods but generally ok with sugar. I wonder what the overlap is.

Re:Exposure to environmental toxins may be root of rise in n... by oifjsidjf on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @04:02AM (#33327547)
Honey can be common in some parts of the planet, yes. Honey is also partially seasonal, there is less of it at some time + they didn't have artifical bee hives that would produce tons of honey.

Fruit on the other hand: 1) is seasonal 2) modern fruit is totaly different than fruits ~200 years ago: most fruit in nature had hardly any sugars in it: only the modern fruits have. So modern fruit should be thought of as a severely modified form of plants: they didn't exist and were not eaten 200 years ago in the current massive-sugar-form + were only consumed seasonaly since they couldn't ship it around the world in a few days or weeks.

TLDR: fruit was non-sweet, from what I know (might be wrong) berries are the only ancient-like fruits nowadays (10k years ago). There were grapes etc..yes..but if you ate homegrown old-school grapes you'd know they can be very sour actually, often not sweet at all.