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Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by jhoechtl on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:19PM (#33321160)
The original content https://www.science.org/content/article/how-ginkgo-biloba-ac...

> The leaves of the tree did not undergo comparable medicalization.

The leaves were never part of TCM. That's an invention of western money makers.

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by JohnJamesRambo on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:17PM (#33322788)
Do you have a reference for that assertion? Googling and the wiki doesn't seem to support that idea.

>Although it is the seed that features most prominently in the Chinese materia medica, both oral tradition and written sources indicate that the medicinal properties of the gingko’s leaves have been utilized just as early and extensively. One indication is the fact that before the seeds were discovered by the imperial kitchen, the gingko’s main name–Duck Feet Tree–was fashioned after the leaves. Furthermore, regional herb usage in Sichuan, Zhejiang, Guangxi, Hebei, Henan, Liaoning and other gingko rich provinces documents that the gingko leaf has been used as a folk herb for a long time. And most importantly, the gingko leaf received a formal entry in the official materia medica commissioned by the Imperial Academy of Medicine almost 500 years ago.

from https://classicalchinesemedicine.org/ginkgo-cultural-backgro...

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by melony on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:33PM (#33321370)
This explains so much why Ginkgo Bioworks is named what it is.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by abemiller on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:33PM (#33322321)
Because it's immortal?
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by melony on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:45PM (#33323065)
Pretty much, anti-aging is the rage right now.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by rdtwo on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:18PM (#33324495)
No because it’s rotting and smells like semen…
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by otikik on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:44PM (#33323052)
I don’t know how accurate the source was, but I have heard that people use the dried leaves to prepare a tea-like infusion as well as to smoke them.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by tetraca on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:54PM (#33323141)
These are the worst. My campus had them lining the boulevard, and every autumn the air would reek like vomit.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by rippercushions on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:15PM (#33323898)
Downvoters have clearly never had the dubious pleasure of smelling a gingko boulevard in season, because I can vouch that this is true. The rotting fruit/nuts smell terrible, and even TFA mentions "their olfactory resemblance to carrion".
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by hinoki on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @05:55AM (#33328387)
To my nose it’s closer to a mixture of dog poop and rancid butter. Maybe it’s like cilantro, and only some people can experience the full bouquet of scents…
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by Maursault on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:34AM (#33331989)
> My campus had them lining the boulevard, and every autumn the air would reek like vomit.

Vomit is the unmistakable and most notorious scent of campus dormitories.

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by zasdffaa on Monday October 24, 2022 @06:04PM (#33323245)
FYI the seeds are bloody revolting to eat. Caveat Nibbler, I suppose.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by rippercushions on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:13PM (#33323886)
Really? They're pretty common in Japan in season, either salted and roasted or hiding in steamed chawanmushi (egg custard).

What is bloody revolting, though, is the smell of the rotting fruit, which bears a disturbing resemblance to semen that's been sitting around for a while.

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by rootw0rm on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:21PM (#33324524)
Okay, hold on a second, that's an oddly specific description. How exactly are you familiar with the scent of 'semen that's been sitting around for a while'?
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by jamiek88 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @02:50AM (#33327076)
How, sir, are you not?
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by dole on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:22PM (#33324535)
Every autumn my mother would drive us to the local cemetery to pick up the gross fallen ginkgo seeds into a bag to take them home, wash the smelly seedcoats off, drop them onto a baking pan into the oven to roast them.

They taste and smell nothing like the vomit seedcoats, they’re kinda like pistachios but a bit rubbery and chewy. I’m still surprised they’re not more popular and that more people don’t know, but perhaps it’s because most municipalities avoid the smelly males. I didn’t realize the toxicity until checking wiki, either.

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by dmm10 on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:46PM (#33324723)
Female ginkgo trees are the ones that bear fruit and hence produce the offensive odor. But branches of a male ginko tree can (rarely) change sex and bare fruit.

I've never tried Ginko kernels roasted to the point they were crunchy. But I find the ones roasted (some times on a skewer) to the consistency of firm cooked lima beans have a flavor similar to lima beans. Preparing lima beans is much easier though they produce very different medicinal effects.

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by throwaway5752 on Monday October 24, 2022 @10:45PM (#33325554)
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by agumonkey on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:18PM (#33324497)
After Michael Levin recent trail of interviews, it's strange to see so much news on the 'eternal' life front.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by throw1234651234 on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:37PM (#33324643)
Every time my mind goes on the immortality tangent I remind myself that we can't:

1. Heal a cavity. 2. Re-attach a nail. 3. Force hair growth. 4. Fix cartilage.

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by k__ on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:51PM (#33324762)
Gotta live a healthy life until we can, I guess.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Monday October 24, 2022 @09:19PM (#33324970)
Re #3 I just read they had some success growing hair in the lab
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by agumonkey on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:20AM (#33326539)
the japanese team ?
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by agumonkey on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:21AM (#33326547)
Well that's half my point, it seems there's a renewal of ideas / resources on those topics. Or maybe just enough successes to put light on long old work.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by someweirdperson on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:47AM (#33331169)
At least, unlike elephants, we're not doomed to die of starvation after losing our last set of teeth.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by Jun8 on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:50PM (#33324753)
Ginkgo trees are either male or female and the horrible smell is only produced by female trees, when ripe seeds fall to the ground, i.e. not all ginkgos smell. Unfortunately, it's impossible to tell if a young individual is male or female (https://www.osgf.org/blog/2017/11/7/blandy-ginkgo).

If you have a patio or small balcony, you can grow the ginkgo shrub (Ginkgo biloba Mariken), we have one and its leaves just turned last week to a fantastic yellow, which is indescribable ... well, I just googled it and the color code is #f9f525

Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by xs83 on Monday October 24, 2022 @09:08PM (#33324881)
When I was in Japan they explained why Gingko trees are often planted near temples (apart from looking awesome), they say that the water content in the leaves and their apparent readiness to drop when stressed make them a great fire suppressant, and that fires in Autumn often failed to spread when there are gingko leaves on the ground, protecting the temple itself.
Re:Immortal by Default: A brief history of humans and the gi... by tatrajim on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @04:59AM (#33328002)
Visitors to South Korea can enjoy the spectacle of Korea's most famous ginkgo tree, at Yongmun Temple (양평 용문사 은행나무) on the outskirts of Seoul, 42 meters tall, and thought to be around 1,100 years old. It has been designated a National natural treasure and was already famous in the 15th century, when the famed monarch King Sejong (r. 1418-50) designated the tree with ministerial official rank (正三品)。

http://www.heritage.go.kr/heri/cul/culSelectDetail.do;jsessi...