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Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by bombcar on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @02:50PM (#33266327)
There was (is?) a strong suspicion on the part of the British that the whole 1776 kerfuffle was likely caused by the colony being infested with pirates and smugglers, and not liking being cracked down upon.
Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by tomrod on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @04:31PM (#33267568)
I'm going to channel my inner thoughts right now:

wut-literal taxation without representation

Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by adastra22 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @06:55PM (#33268869)
I mean, that’s kinda the opinion on the American side as well, no? The Sons of Liberty were a loose association of smugglers, undoubtably with some pirate connections. The Boston tea party was about lowering the tax on tea, not raising it, which impacted the black market these guys were selling in.
Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @11:24PM (#33270479)
It mainly deals with after the revolution began (though covers a fair bit from before, if I recall), but Robert H Patton's Patriot Pirates is a good read (and also dispels the myth that private citizens couldn't own canon and "warships" around the time the 2nd amendment was created).
Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by mcv on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:28AM (#33272733)
> The Boston tea party was about lowering the tax on tea, not raising it, which impacted the black market these guys were selling in.

Wait, really? I've always understood they were protesting increased tariffs cutting into legitimate trade profits.

Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by adastra22 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:40AM (#33272787)
The Tea Act raised taxes overall from a British perspective, but due to the way it was structured it actually lowered taxes paid by the colonies in trade with the rest of the empire.

“The act retained the duty on imported tea at its existing rate, but, since the company was no longer required to pay an additional tax in England, the Tea Act effectively lowered the price of the East India Company’s tea in the colonies.”

https://www.history.com/topics/american-revolution/tea-act

Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by mcv on Thursday October 20, 2022 @07:23AM (#33273047)
So the whole revolution was based on a lie!

Interestingly, lots of revolutions are, and don't always lead to what most supporters intended. I once heard that the Belgian independence from Netherland in the 1830s was driven largely by French influence, while many Flemish just wanted a more liberal government and better representation, and not actual independence.

Re:A Lot of What Is Known about Pirates Is Not True (2017) by adastra22 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @08:13AM (#33273463)
Not really related to the Tea Act per se, but the revolutionary war was NOT a revolution at first. It was, from the very beginning, more of what you would classify as a rebellious act. An attempt to renegotiate the terms of colonial rule with mother England.

Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" changed all that. It's only after that pamphlet was published that you see the other founding fathers taking anti-monarchy stances and advocating for total independence. The Declaration of Independence was, at best, edited by Thomas Jefferson, but almost certainly written by Thomas Paine in my mind.

It's funny because Thomas Paine was an englishman who'd only just recently arrived in the colonies.