>Also for a long while one of my preferred FTP programs was just a Firefox extension.

Looks at calendar to confirm, yup, it's close to the end of 2022, and people are still using FTP. <facepalm>

Haven't used it for years (5 years since last I can remember and that was close to a one off).

I used it only as an example.

Oh, and BTW I always tried to use SCP or SFTP where possible the last few years.

As long as it's FTPS and it works for the intents and purposes you use it for, what's wrong with using it?

FTPS !== FTP which is what the comment I replied to stated.

If we just get to make up stuff, then what a fun day this will be

You sure that you're not confusing SFTP and FTPS? FTPS is absolutely FTP.

Also, FTP is still used a lot, unfortunately.

So you're telling me that if I enter ftp://blah to something expecting a secured connection that it'll work just fine no problems? Then I have to ask what the point of the 'S' really is.

>Also, FTP is still used a lot, unfortunately.

Um, like, yup. Please see my original comment on my feeling on this.

No, what I'm saying FTPS is just plain FTP over TLS connection, there is nothing special about it. When you talk to a web server, do you refer to the piece of software that does communication for you "http client" or "https client" or "http and or https <version> client"?

What I'm saying: You're being needlessly pedantic. When people say FTP, they might mean SFTP, it might talk about FTPS or plain FTP. If I read original comment correctly, it is about FireFTP, it talks all 3 commonly used flavors of FTP. Notice how it's called FireFTP and not FireSFTP/FTP/FTPS...

Me, personally, always specifically clarify that I'm talking about plain-text FTP when I talk about plain-text FTP because of how bonkers it is.

Thanks for the mansplanation. I was confused on what FTPS was.

How else would you deploy your k8s cluster?

TFTP over X.25, obviously.