the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke:
"theres actually zero difference between good &
bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"I am reminded of the person who called their intimate partner “tomorrow” because they never came.
You slaver.
You may not owe capitalism better but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.
Perhaps I’m simple, but I’m pretty sure the people who dropped $10k on full self driving “in a year” or “in the future” in their Tesla model S in 2017 got fleeced. Tesla sold access to a product that doesn’t exist, and never delivered it. Uber sold a business model to stupid investors that doesn’t exist to justify breaking other laws.
That doesn’t mean that the long running Google work in the field, etc is a scam. That doesn’t mean that working on self driving is unethical. Ripping off people is.
> That doesn’t mean that the long running Google work in the field, etc is a scam. That doesn’t mean that working on self driving is unethical.
Seems like you're still grappling with your own stance on the issue.
Or did they just redefine the meaning of “full self driving” to mean something other than the car fully driving itself?
Then there is Uber. You could read HN archival posts where significant numbers of folks here drank the kool-aid and waved away the obvious holes in the Uber business model with “of course this is just temporary… robot cars will be doing everything in two years”. Listen to a Ben Thompson podcast when he devotes dozens of hours fawning over Uber.
Full self driving is tantalizing for unethical business people because it demos so well. High minded talk about the trolley car problem and liddites shut down meaningful criticism.
The engineers may be collecting big paychecks working on it, but they are hardly innocent; they are no different than employees of any other unethical corporation.