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Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by unendingtorment on Friday October 14, 2022 @12:42AM (#33199702)
Or maybe get vouchers or tax refund for that dumpster fire.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by itake on Friday October 14, 2022 @01:33AM (#33199989)
I think that's defeats the purpose of public school. As a society, we decided we need to collectively contribute to every child's education, regardless if they are own. I have no kids, but I pay my school taxes so that other people's children can have an education.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by oatmeal_croc on Friday October 14, 2022 @01:38AM (#33200005)
Paying for other children's education gives you benefits like lesser crime and will keep the value of your property high.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by quickthrower2 on Friday October 14, 2022 @07:31AM (#33202142)
And the continuation of modern civilisation to boot!
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by SilasX on Friday October 14, 2022 @01:39AM (#33200010)
The parent wasn’t disagreeing with the collective payment responsibility (and I don’t know where you got that), only with the public school model that gives no choice as to which schools the money is spent at.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by lazyasciiart on Friday October 14, 2022 @01:43AM (#33200029)
Suggesting a tax refund is pretty clearly proposing they should not have to fund public schools.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by pooper on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:42AM (#33200303)
I fully support a public education but in the US, the school system is massively overloaded. We blame schools for everything and schools are all too eager to accept responsibility for anything and everything.

School athletics programs paying for huge multimillion dollar stadiums should not be possible. And on that topic, independent school districts should not exist. One state, one school district. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Stadium_(Allen,_Texas)

Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by SilasX on Friday October 14, 2022 @08:52AM (#33202863)
Refund or voucher to the parent suffering it. Still not seeing how you went from that to “don’t you understand that non-parents should fund public schools?” The premise is that those hurt by it, parents, recover money to otherwise educate their kids. Nowhere in that was a claim that the childless should get money back for being childless, so I don’t see how addressing that is responsive.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by itake on Friday October 14, 2022 @11:29AM (#33204849)
I think you’re saying that If your kids are not using the service, then you should not pay the tax.

This doesn’t sound any different from someone having no kids, not using the service, and expecting a refund.

Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by SilasX on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:37PM (#33207246)
No, they're hugely different. One of them accepts that the state should still be paying for education of children regardless of whether your personally have children -- just with better options than failed public schools. Which is why lectures about how "we should all be paying for kids' education" is very unresponsive. Which is why I said so. And have not yet gotten a substantive reply that addresses the criticism.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by HWR_14 on Friday October 14, 2022 @03:35PM (#33207895)
The majority of private schools are religious. We don't usually let tax money go to religions.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by SilasX on Saturday October 15, 2022 @04:58PM (#33218582)
Like Notre Dame and Brigham Young?
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by itake on Friday October 14, 2022 @04:25PM (#33208416)
I’m still not understanding your point.

I must pay for socialized education regardless if I use the service. I might choose to not use this service because I lack children or I may choose a different provider. But this doesn’t mean I don’t have to pay my taxes if I don’t want to use a gov service.

What makes adults with kids special that they don’t have to pay this tax when they don’t want to use the service?

Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by lazyasciiart on Friday October 14, 2022 @06:32PM (#33209580)
But I don’t care if their kids use it. They are not funding their child, they are funding the system of public education.
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by SilasX on Saturday October 15, 2022 @04:58PM (#33218587)
Which vouchers are. Why is this so hard to understand?
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by lazyasciiart on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:13AM (#33242877)
No, they aren't. Perhaps you're having trouble telling the difference between people who don't understand your argument and people who disagree with it?
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by conductr on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:02AM (#33200124)
You would not pay those taxes if they were optional. Most wouldn't anyways. Most people live in a paycheck to paycheck world and would love to get a free pass on that tax bill.

"We" also have not really decided anything as a society but were born into the decisions of prior generations and it could be changed. See Roe v Wade, marijuana, etc.

Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by abigail95 on Friday October 14, 2022 @04:58AM (#33201198)
The purpose of a public school is the opportunity to educate children at little to no out of pocket cost. It has nothing to do with specifics of the tax system, or whether a voucher program exists.

Also, if you are American, voluntarily donating money without oversight to a local school has as much return as breast cancer awareness.

Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by marcosdumay on Friday October 14, 2022 @11:46AM (#33205098)
How is a voucher not collectively contributing to every child's education?
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by asdff on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:43AM (#33200313)
If you give your kids a stable home they will do fine in public school
Re:Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire e... by HWR_14 on Friday October 14, 2022 @03:34PM (#33207879)
I don't get a refund for having no kids in public school. Why would anyone else?