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Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by nkurz on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @08:18AM (#33175838)
Here's the actual brief that was filed, which is indeed a fun and worthwhile read:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-293/242292/2022...

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by sedeki on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @08:23AM (#33175895)
Is it legal to parodise in an official document (?) to the US Supreme Court like this?
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by defrost on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @08:34AM (#33175993)
Absolutely, it's a submission to state a position and in theory anyone can submit whatever position they wish for consideration.

The better question is whether it is wise, and in this particular cae I suspect it may well play to their favour - it's a rare latin nerd that fails to chuckle at a bad latin quip or three.

After all, it's not like they led with Pēdīcābo ego vōs et irrumābō from Catullus 16.

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by naasking on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:51AM (#33176975)
Why would such a thing be illegal? At worst the justices would ignore it.
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by dylan604 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:28AM (#33177483)
Someone somewhere in the justice department must have thought parody was not legal, otherwise, this lawsuit would have been quashed and this specific amicus brief would not be necessary. So if this specific brief was presented to those other courts that allowed this to continue, the reception might be different enough to make one thing this might just not be legal.
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by puffoflogic on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:12AM (#33178149)
> this lawsuit would have been quashed

What gave you the truly outrageous idea that justice department has the capability to "quash" lawsuits such that they can't be appealed?

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by dylan604 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:34PM (#33179429)
yeah sorry. totally meant judicial branch, not justice dept as in FBI and AG. typed fast, not enough caffeine, yadda yadda blah blah
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by jcranmer on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:34AM (#33178513)
The US Justice Department could have done diddly squat to affect the outcome of the case to date.

If you actually read the questions presented in the petition for writ of certiorari (https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-293/238740/2022...), it's more anodyne:

> The questions presented are:

> 1. Whether an officer is entitled to qualified immunity for arresting an individual based solely on speech parodying the government, so long as no case has previously held the particular speech is protected.

> 2. Whether the Court should reconsider the doctrine of qualified immunity.

So, yay, it's basically a qualified immunity case, where the infringement in question is an unhappy local government office patently violating someone's First Amendment rights. (Sadly, not the first or last time this is going to happen.)

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by SeanLuke on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:57AM (#33177048)
It is illegal in many countries. Lèse-majesté is a real thing.

But not in the US.

[I believe the GP is from outside the US]

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by probably_wrong on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:56AM (#33178874)
The guy who submitted a brief in comic book form for a DOJ price fixing case [1] is doing just fine. So I'm guessing this parody would also be fine.

[1] https://www.loweringthebar.net/2012/09/all-briefs-should-now...

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by Loic on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:12AM (#33176416)
It is beautifully written. The capacity of the authors to effectively use parody within the brief to defend parody while keeping the serious parts of the brief serious shows the quality of the Onions.
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by jfk13 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:15AM (#33178192)
And was posted to HN last week, though only garnered a few comments at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33072030
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by b3morales on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:51AM (#33178789)
There were two submissions for the topic at around the same time; this one got more activity: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33080052
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by daltont on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @08:49AM (#33176141)
With the normalization of crazy in the U.S. it is getting more difficult to discern parody from things that people actually say or do. Poe's Law and reddit /r/atetheonion are things for a reason.
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by stjohnswarts on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:52AM (#33176982)
I feel this is a direct result of safe zones and everything "woke". People have lost the ability evidently to handle criticism, other people's ideas, and even egalitarianism. You have a new take on what is society? Quit looking for a safe zone and stuff it down people's throats and tell them to fucking deal with it, but don't demand others give you a safe zone (barring violence, which is never okay, and you should go to jail for that). I guess I just came out of the punk/gen-x generation, but holy shit are people too sensitive.
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by misnome on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:12AM (#33177237)
"Police arrest man for parodying police is the fault of wokeness gone mad" is certainly A Take.
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by croisillon on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:17AM (#33177308)
i heard recently that one country attacked another one out of fear that the latter would adhere to an alliance defending it from being attacked by the former
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by RGamma on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:03AM (#33178007)
Reminds me of this related take: https://ibb.co/zVFw2C2
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by yellsatclouds on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:39AM (#33178602)
that's the essential (mobster) insurance business, though if done by predefined criminals it's called a protection racket, if done by legal obligation is ccalled 'liability compliance'

the world is run by a mafia all the way to the top.

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by yellsatclouds on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:37AM (#33178561)
your statement has way too many relative references, you speak of the latter, and the former, and the alliances between the opposition of the former against the alleged plans of the latter in a scenario where one invades a soon to be allied 3rd party

my point being is that in trying to sound serious and formal you've imposed on your reader an extra layer of unacking your point which you also had to needlessly pack so you'd sound like I already said (see: I did it again, put in a reference instead of repeating cuz it makes me sound more serious and 'deep')

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by drdeca on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:47PM (#33179601)
This is why natural language should add support for defining named variables.

Can we get that in the next edition of the standard?

Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by misnome on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @02:05PM (#33180681)
Unless I'm completely missing an extra layer of satire here (which would be topical), I think that they were doing it deliberately.
Re:Defending parody: the most important amicus brief yet by htrp on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:43PM (#33182008)
>The Onion’s journalists have garnered a sterling reputation for accurately forecasting future events. One such coup was The Onion’s scoop revealing that a former president kept nuclear secrets strewn around his beach home’s basement three years before it even happened.2

This is amazing writing :-D