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Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by kikokikokiko on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @11:58AM (#33164972)
Far from your Burger King straw men, there's even a very famous study, out of the UK if I'm not mistaken, that confirmed the thesis of black women being the least attractive group across the whole spectrum of major ethnic groups. I mean, there must be one group, out of all, that would score lower than the others ain't there? Reality doesn't have to be politically correct at the end of the day.
Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by Arkhaine_kupo on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @12:03PM (#33165030)
Source or it wont be discussed.

But aside from that, and the inherent assumption that beauty standards are universal and biological which is a pretty big assumption.

A slight societal preference does not lead to the conclusions people drew from the article.

To give an example, taller men have a higher chance of being promoted. Fortune 500 CEOs are disproportionately tall compared to the general population. As a society we still promote meritocracy, and working hard. Not telling people who are 5'4 to just give up and be unemployed cause they will never be the CEO of Ford Motor company.

Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by lmm on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @05:59PM (#33169792)
> To give an example, taller men have a higher chance of being promoted. Fortune 500 CEOs are disproportionately tall compared to the general population. As a society we still promote meritocracy, and working hard. Not telling people who are 5'4 to just give up and be unemployed cause they will never be the CEO of Ford Motor company.

Now you're moving the goalposts, which shows you knew your original claim was wrong. "It didn't happen, and if it did they deserved it" indeed.

Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by narrator on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @12:21PM (#33165282)
It's a first principal in liberal ideology that all races and genders are equally attractive , intelligent, and are equal in any other positive attribute imaginable and only differ in skin color and gender identity. Further, all people are roughly equal in all characteristics and the only thing that differentiates them is upbringing, access to opportunity and systemic discrimination toward or against them.

No amount of empirical data matters because it is a first principal which the whole rest of the political ideology relies upon. If someone does not accept this as a first principal and is willing to examine empirical data that contradicts it and draw the conclusion that all people are not equal, then they are no longer a liberal.

Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by pfisherman on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @12:47PM (#33165603)
That’s not it at all. What people are saying is that attractiveness is subjective, and nobody’s preferences are more or less valid than others’. Where people get into trouble is when they start making blanket statement that the world does / should operate according to their preferences, at which point people who prefer differently start rolling their eyes.

It’s not acknowledging differences that are the problem. It is things like the assignment of value judgements and other stuff that people erroneously attribute to those differences.

Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by compiler-guy on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @04:57PM (#33169154)
Strangely, There doesn't have to be just one with a lower score than the others.

One of the weirdest things about being human is that our preferences are neither rational nor consistent. The classic example in behavioural economics is with ice-cream flavors. If I prefer chocolate to strawberry and strawberry to vanilla, it doesn't follow that I prefer chocolate to vanilla. The preferences aren't transitive, and there doesn't exist a total preferences order.

Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by Brusco_RF on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @06:50PM (#33170289)
Thats a very interesting point that I've never considered. Where can I read more about that? Is there a study you can link me to?
Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by compiler-guy on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @10:17PM (#33171957)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11483173/ is one such study.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/preferences/#Tra has an overview, note especially the paragraph about pair-wise comparisons.

Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by imtringued on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @02:34AM (#33173609)
But economists assume that preferences have a total order otherwise there wouldn't be a utility curve.
Re:Why you should never pay for online dating (OkCupid) (2010) by compiler-guy on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:46PM (#33180444)
Economists assume a utility curve in the same way that physicists assume spherical cows. They are a useful abstraction which help explain many things, but don't reflect reality completely.

https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/BehavioralEconomics.html