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Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by hackyhacky on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @05:49AM (#33161305)
This is a No True Scotsman fallacy.

How do we define "real journalist" in a way other than "curates news in a way that I personally approve of"?

Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by robertlagrant on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @06:42AM (#33161671)
> This is a No True Scotsman fallacy.

Ironically, this is not a real no true Scotsman.

Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by aikendrum on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @06:01AM (#33161396)
Seems like a relatively consistent, generally agreed on definition at least of 'investigative journalist' shouldn't be impossible. Something like... 'A news gatherer, who uses primary sources and triangulates investigative techniques to gather information, establish causation and contribute to understanding of emerging and ongoing news.'
Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by HPsquared on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @05:52AM (#33161328)
There is no other way.
Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by chalst on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @07:25AM (#33161987)
Oh, I don't know, perhaps look at the huge amount of material from journalism schools on what journalism is and how it should be done, or maybe at journalism's professional bodies and their codes of ethics?

Cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standard...

Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by treeman79 on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @08:12AM (#33162406)
Is the journalist advocating for something or simply reporting the facts.
Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by yucky on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @09:48AM (#33163325)
I would define a real journalist as someone who adds new important previously unknown facts to a story, or reports on a previously unreported story and who discloses if their sources have a vested interest in the information they've presented.

So that eliminates cable news entirely and most of the work done by NYT, WAPO etc. who basically act as a mouthpiece for government and repeat the same stories ad infinitum.

Re:Private Prisons Are Behind the Push for Homeless Criminal... by ModernMech on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @10:45AM (#33163956)
There’s a whole sub field of journalism called “curatorial journalism” or “meta journalism” that reports aggregated news that has already been reported by other outlets. This means they don’t report any new facts per se, but sometimes the combination of facts over time can color a story differently than when the facts are reported in isolation. I find this form of journalism to be very compelling.