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Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by pvaldes on Sunday October 09, 2022 @06:53PM (#33146092)
It leads to people showing the hair in their heads, that is the normal way in our species. Including the majority of the muslim population and the majority of the human population.

If you think this is the same as being naked in public or that women's hair is impure, well... You live in a very sad place and deserve compassion. It really sucks to be you, but your pain is self-inflicted.

Enjoying the feminine grace and beauty is one of the greatest pleasures of being alive. Imagine yourself sit in a caffee three months from now watching by the first time an endless stream of smiling happy, "naked" women. If this image don't puts a smile in your heart, then something terrible must had happened to you

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by seer-zig on Sunday October 09, 2022 @07:16PM (#33146223)
We have restriction on what people are allowed to show and in front of whom. Just like many other faiths do. It's quite telling how Muslim women follow the blessed Mary, Peace be upon her, more than Christian women do. She's always portrayed as covering her hair. Our women cover their hair.

> Enjoying the feminine grace and beauty is one of the greatest pleasures of being alive

And we get to enjoy it. Just not in the way the West wants where any strange man will drool over our women. We're not pigs, nor are we dumb. We're seeing what the so called "female liberation" is causing to your societies. Enjoy your STDs, single parent families, children on the streets, and normalized prostitution, and many more.

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by pvaldes on Sunday October 09, 2022 @07:49PM (#33146405)
> And we get to enjoy it.

Not even close. The fact is that some men (and women) felt so threatened and unhappy by a woman showing a glimpse of beauty that killed her in a coward hate crime.

Your idea about how men behave in the west, or China, or Brazil, or Australia when we see a woman... is just ignorance.

You don't even will notice how clueless and silly your words sound out of your closed world. Ever.

You are not pigs?. We aren't pigs either. We are men, and the difference is that we live much better than you.

> Enjoy your STD's

I never had one. Just be smart and use a condom as everybody does

> The children in the streets

Zero children in the streets here. Primary school is free and obligatory for all children, boys and girls.

Any other question that you would want to know?

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by seer-zig on Sunday October 09, 2022 @08:15PM (#33146570)
> The fact is that some men (and women) felt so threatened

No one is feeling threatened. You're the one projecting here.

I'm also not defending what happened to her at all. Whomever killed her should be brought to justice.

> Your idea about how men behave in the west

Not really. I've seen and experienced it personally.

> and the difference is that we live much better than you.

Yes, as evidenced by the insane rates of STDs, mental illnesses, women resorting to prostitution to support themselves, the mass homicides, drunk driving, wide spread rapes, and much more to count here.

> Just be smart and use a condom as everybody does

Yes, everybody does, yet the rates of STDs are through the roof.

Much more available here in the following playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIBKRT_XsX4&list=PLPqH38Ki1f...

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by pvaldes on Sunday October 09, 2022 @08:45PM (#33146733)
Lets me check your list: Zero. Not. None of that I'm aware. None recently apart of the terrorist attacks in Madrid and Barcelona (hardly attributable to the west way of life). I never drive drunk and never meet anybody that was raped.

It seems that your image of the world has a few cracks on it, and is not so accurate as you think

Now tell me how many of those points can you check in your place.

Please don't dare to tell me that Islam countries are happy utopias were nobody is raped, there is not prostitution or mass killings and problems never appear. We aren't so gullible.

We know that Afghanistan is a main drugs exporter and mental issues by drug abuse are not uncommon. We are aware that half of the muslims want the other half killed and that some muslims have committed genocides towards other muslims at each single opportunity in their history. We are aware that in some places woman can't work or earn money to support themselves in any non clandestine way

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by pvaldes on Sunday October 09, 2022 @09:28PM (#33146912)
You seem to think that "The Sun", is a credible source of information. And about Spain noneless. That's really cute.

I seriously doubt that they could even locate it in a map.

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by CRConrad on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @08:59AM (#33162822)
> > The fact is that some men (and women) felt so threatened

> No one is feeling threatened.

Oh yeah? Then why did they feel compelled to kill a young woman for the "horrible crime" of not covering her hair?

> You're the one projecting here.

Nope, it's definitely you. All that gibbering about STDs... It's not actually mandatory for Westerners to have unprotected sex with every woman whose hair we can see.

And posting a YT playing list of some little scraggly-bearded mufti wannabe mullah spouting medieval superstition, as if that supports your position? It only further cements how wrong you are.

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by seer-zig on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @08:50PM (#33171294)
> Oh yeah? Then why did they feel compelled to kill a young woman for the "horrible crime" of not covering her hair?

Why are you asking me? Did I defend the corruption of such a regime anywhere in what I wrote? In fact, I stated the opposite. The incident should be investigated, and those responsible should face justice.

> It's not actually mandatory for Westerners to have unprotected sex with every woman whose hair we can see

No one said it is mandatory, but the results are clear for spreading immorality in the land.

Your last statement is pure bigotry and Islamophobic and racist. If you don't want to learn, I hope someone else who comes across this conversation has an open mind.

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by dang on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:43AM (#33174029)
I well understand the frustration of being in the minority among an internet community, but you can't post flamewar comments like this to HN, and you did it repeatedly and egregiously in this thread. We end up having to ban accounts that post like this because the threads it leads to are so destructive of the community.

I don't like to ban people for expressing minority points of view, but your conduct in this thread was way past unacceptable in its own right. Please don't do this again, and please avoid religious arguments generally—they just lead to hellish flamewars and are always off topic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: actually, since you have a history of doing this and ignoring our requests to stop, I've banned this account. More at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33174051.

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by dang on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:40AM (#33174008)
Flamewar comments like you posted in this thread are completely unacceptable on HN and will get you banned here, regardless of how you feel about someone else's religion.

Religious flamewar is a hell particularly to be avoided. No more of this, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by dang on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:48AM (#33174068)
We've had to warn you before about posting flamewar comments to HN. The kind of thing you repeatedly posted to this thread is particularly hellish and awful. We ban accounts that do this.

I don't want to ban you, so please don't post anything like this to HN again—regardless of how you feel about someone else's religion.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by stickfigure on Sunday October 09, 2022 @08:15PM (#33146566)
> Our women

Use of the possessive form noted.

Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by seer-zig on Sunday October 09, 2022 @08:17PM (#33146581)
You can "note" however much you want. Our men, women, and children, our land, our culture. Our women refer to our women, as "our women". Play your silly games elsewhere.
Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by ehvatum on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @02:31AM (#33160128)
The possessive suggests possession - as if the men of Iran own the women of Iran, and are sovereign over them, like an autocratic government is over its subjects. You may be aware of protests currently ongoing in Iran regarding distaste for this attitude amongst “your” Iranians.
Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by seer-zig on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @08:41AM (#33162648)
Anything can suggest a specific meaning when someone has an agenda. I'm not playing these games.
Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by dang on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:51AM (#33174086)
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Re:Protests in Iran: State-run live TV hacked by protesters by dang on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:51AM (#33174089)
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