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Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by user_7832 on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:41AM (#33119194)
To anyone full of regret, I'd just like to give a quote by Marcus Aurelius (a Roman Emperor and stoic philosopher)

Think of yourself as dead. You have lived your life. Now take what's left and live it properly.

Life likely hasn't been perfect for almost anyone, but would you rather die right now (with likely unfinished desires, wishes and more regrets) or would you try to make the best use of what you have?

(It may be a bit difficult to fully live as per the quote even if you're already familiar with stoicism - it's quite hard for me too - but something that sometimes helps me is to literally visualize yourself dead as of now.

Maybe a stroke.

Would you be happy?

If not, you should do something about it.)

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by matwood on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:15AM (#33119761)
Steve Jobs turned the ideas in that quote into a commencement speech after his cancer diagnosis. It concludes with:

Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by scandox on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:15AM (#33120189)
It is handy when your heart is in something financially remunerative though.

My heart tends toward the gutter. Not complaining though.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by matwood on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:16AM (#33120828)
I knew I would get your comment and almost left out the last line because of it. But, I wanted to keep the quote complete. It still works even if you leave out follow your heart.
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by smoldesu on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:27AM (#33121812)
It's a shame he never took the advice to heart. Jobs' last days were unnecessarily painful for both himself and his family, who desperately tried helping him only to be pushed away and insulted.

Jobs was good at echoing the wisdom of people smarter than him, but not so great at using those principles to fix his own life.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by voisin on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:39PM (#33127179)
> Jobs was good at echoing the wisdom of people smarter than him, but not so great at using those principles to fix his own life.

This applies to most people.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by hirvi74 on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:16PM (#33129242)
Yep, my favorite philosopher, Alan Watts basically died from alcoholism. Though, I am not sure whether his teachings would condone that or not for I have seen a few people argue either way.
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by parroteal on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @08:23AM (#33162481)
Oh, wow! I didn't know that. I've listened to him for hours and hours.

The thing with alcohol (and most psychoactive drugs) is it literally changes the brain - and by that the person. The young person that says: "I would never let it get this far!" is basically right when it says that. But prolonged use of the drug changes that person. And that new person definitely will let it get this far, because it sees new justifications for doing so.

I know from experience unfortunately.

I don't think sober Alan Watts would approve of severe alcoholism as something 'no better or worse' than any other activity to spend your day. But I can clearly see a drinking Alan Watts run circles around anybody arguing the same thing.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by paidefsou on Monday October 17, 2022 @07:35AM (#33232177)
One of my best too! Best line i have ever read is quoted in a few lines i wrote here...https://www.pedefsou.com/posts/still-forgeting-to-live-the-m...
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by fakedang on Saturday October 08, 2022 @03:03AM (#33130404)
> Jobs was good at echoing the wisdom of people smarter than him, but not so great at using those principles to fix his own life.

One quote by Konosuke Matsushita that I've heard (which I think he quoted from a Japanese one) :

The light is darkest underneath the lighthouse.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by l33tbro on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:38AM (#33119918)
Is quoting a stoic on HN the same as playing 'Stairway to Heaven' in a guitar shop?

I do love this quote of course (and all things Aurelius).

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by agomez314 on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:13AM (#33120177)
lol
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by user_7832 on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:14AM (#33120809)
...I had no idea it was common here on HN, though I'm not surprised. It was just something that's helped me a fair bit and I hope(d) it could help others too.
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by bombcar on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:48AM (#33122121)
It's not just HN, stoics hit a "rational coder" approach to life chord with those who fight computers all day.
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by asveikau on Friday October 07, 2022 @12:01PM (#33123120)
I think it might be more that a lot of people in tech have poor work-life balances and bad interpersonal dynamics, and this causes high stress and receptivity to coping mechanisms.
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by parroteal on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @08:14AM (#33162419)
That's exactly what I think.

Much of what modern Stoics put forth appears to be an excuse to dissociate from emotional pain, not cope with unchangeable fate or hardship.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by asveikau on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @01:02PM (#33165798)
Thank you for this well put reply.

I think I need to add that I don't mean to judge for this. I've been in similar places too. It can be a fine line with many shades of gray between "dissocation" and "coping". Some of it may be useful to somebody. Falling into it as a trap is very human.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by yamtaddle on Friday October 07, 2022 @12:01PM (#33123119)
Stoics had (yet another—IIRC the last one was around the 1950s-60s) popular revival a few years back and now they're everywhere (especially Aurelius) and there's definitely a bit of "well I'll have to stop wearing that band's shirt out and about now that Wal-Mart's selling fake-faded reproductions of their tour shirts and most of the people you see wearing one can't name more than three of their songs" to it.
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by darkteflon on Friday October 07, 2022 @11:36AM (#33122765)
Funniest thing I read today. Thanks.

Thanks to GP, too. That’s a lovely quote.

Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by rchaud on Friday October 07, 2022 @03:55PM (#33126146)
Yes, and the guitar solo equivalent would be linking to a Paul Graham article.
Re:Ask HN: What's Your Biggest Regret? by r3trohack3r on Friday October 07, 2022 @12:17PM (#33123352)