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Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by mabbo on Monday October 03, 2022 @03:05PM (#33072176)
Apple will just wind up like Amazon: cannibalizing the customer trust now that they have market power.

Consider: Amazon has the majority of e-commerce sales today in the west. This is largely in part of decisions makes 20 years ago to allow honest reviews by real customers, both good and bad, earning strong customer trust. Now they're making money by selling the top spot on their search results and calling it "advertising". It's not. It's the sale of all that customer trust they spent 20 years building up. And the money they make on selling that trust is massive.

Consider: Apple is loved by its customers. They trust them. Apple means quality, security, and all the other good things they want. They're also at 30% of global mobile phone sales- massive market power.

Now it's time to start selling off that customer trust for profit.

Being Apple, the first move is to attack the entire online ad industry via privacy improvements- I'm not saying it's a bad thing that they did it, but I am suggesting they didn't do it for anything other than profit motive. Next, join the industry with a competitor in the space that takes advantage of all the things Apple knows about their customers. Trade the trust they've built up for a payout in cash.

It was either that or try to invent a new product. Since Steve Jobs died that hasn't gone very well.

Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by hatuthecat on Monday October 03, 2022 @03:13PM (#33072264)
Apple Watch was probably the largest launch since Jobs died, and now it’s the dominant smart watch. Apple Silicon breathed new life into the mac lineup. AirPods have become the standard bluetooth earbuds. I think apple has been doing great with new products recently (after struggling in the late 2010s, as shown by their extreme emphasis on services instead of products then) and I hope they keep that momentum instead of compromising on ads.
Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by mabbo on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @02:37PM (#33084762)
> and now it’s the dominant smart watch.

Apple won't release sales figures for it. It's such a small market, compared to everything else that Apple does. Being the biggest fish in a very small pond doesn't add up to much.

> Apple Silicon breathed new life into the mac lineup

No disagreement- I'm using one right now. Fantastic chip, the M1. But it's an iteration on an existing product, not a revolution. It's not something new. It doesn't enable anything that you couldn't do before.

Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by moolcool on Monday October 03, 2022 @04:02PM (#33072878)
Speaking of Apple, Apple Watch, and data collection, how long do you think it will be until an insurance company subpoenas Apple for it's health data? "You said you didn't have a preexisting condition on your application, but you knew you had an arithmia, because your watch told you so. Therefore, we have no choice but to deny your claim"
Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by JimDabell on Monday October 03, 2022 @05:11PM (#33073763)
> how long do you think it will be until an insurance company subpoenas Apple for it's health data?

If you have iOS 12 or later and you have 2FA set up, your Apple Health data is E2E encrypted.

Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by _-david-_ on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:02AM (#33091063)
Does Apple have the key if you use icloud like they do with imessage?
Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by nominusllc on Monday October 03, 2022 @04:35PM (#33073315)
Are pre-existing conditions still grounds to deny coverage?
Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by moolcool on Monday October 03, 2022 @04:42PM (#33073413)
I'm not an expert, but I think it's enough to change your premium.
Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by math-dev on Monday October 03, 2022 @05:45PM (#33074144)
In Australia, unfortunately yes (upto 12 months)
Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by timmytokyo on Monday October 03, 2022 @04:20PM (#33073115)
Tim Cook was asked about advertising and privacy a couple weeks ago. Here's his answer. Take from it what you will.

"Digital advertising is not a bad thing. We've never said digital advertising is a bad thing. What is not good is vacuuming up people's data when they're not doing so on an informed basis. That's what is bad. And so we try to put the user in the driver seat there to own the data."

https://youtu.be/sdvzYtgmIjs?t=3717

Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by amelius on Monday October 03, 2022 @06:26PM (#33074540)
Driver seat as in: we'll show you an annoying popup asking for consent every time you are least prepared for it.
Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by novok on Monday October 03, 2022 @04:35PM (#33073317)
IMO I don't really trust amazon reviews. I use amazon because they have a very effective shipping and return network and system, with a very broad set of items that pretty much nobody else reproduces. It's their fulfillment network essentially. Order from random retailers (even with shopify) and you're reminded why amazon is in the lead, with gotchas in return polices that get pretty irritating. Order from target / walmart and you notice how much is missing.

Amazon wins because it's more like visa or a physical goods internet than a specific store.

Re:Apple’s ad business set to boom on the back of its own an... by frazbin on Monday October 03, 2022 @05:59PM (#33074296)
err nope, now that they've got an Si lead and control teh whole vertical, they can abuse us all the want; we literally have nowhere to go.