After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing

Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Sunday October 02, 2022 @05:53PM (#33060665)

statistical analysis of Hans play indicates he’s cheating, especially against Magnus’ style. your comments indicate you lack any depth in poker or chess.

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by whimsicalism on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:00PM (#33060742)

Would love to see what you are referring to, as I have yet to see any convincing case of this.

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @05:16PM (#33087046)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33085649

where’s your evidence to the contrary?

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @04:26PM (#33086287)

here you go: https://twitter.com/andrewlbeaton/status/1577380022788169728

i’m sure you’ll find fault with it as yet another arm chair expert

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by stale2002 on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:02PM (#33060761)

So then no there has not been any evidence shown of him cheating over the board?

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by roflyear on Sunday October 02, 2022 @05:56PM (#33060693)

This isn't true at all.

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:05PM (#33060782)

Hans makes the most +EV plays against unconventional Magnus openings. He’s either the greatest chess player alive, (and like Robbi can’t even explain his game, and admitted to cheating in the past) or he’s cheating. i’m happy to bet quite a bit of money that Hans is a nobody in 5 years in chess.

what evidence do you have for your position?

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by whimsicalism on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:20PM (#33060926)

If you think making engine moves at the level Hans is at is evidence that he is cheating, I think you are just not very well informed about chess.

> He’s either the greatest chess player alive

Ridiculous, nothing about his play suggests he's the greatest chess player alive.

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:25PM (#33060971)

how do you defend Hans, then? you’re just doubting what i’m saying without substance

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by whimsicalism on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:31PM (#33061023)

The burden is to show that Hans is cheating OTB. I don't really know whether he is cheating OTB, although I think it is unlikely - but AFAIK there hasn't really been any statistical evidence of Hans cheating OTB and I'm not really sure what such evidence would even look like for a super GM who one would expect to routinely play engine moves.

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @04:28PM (#33086314)

the burden is on you, now: https://twitter.com/andrewlbeaton/status/1577380022788169728

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33085649

but i’m sure you have quite literally nothing to refute this with but the autistic cries from the ether

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by whimsicalism on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @01:38PM (#33098698)

If you happened to read the article you were posting, you would see this isn't about OTB chess.

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by whimsicalism on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @07:57PM (#33088944)

stay classy

cc @dang

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by roflyear on Sunday October 02, 2022 @10:52PM (#33062980)

Can you give any source to these large claims?

My position is that the statistical analysis is flawed: just think critically about it for a bit and you can understand why. It has been beaten to death already.

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @04:28PM (#33086329)

just think critically about how arrogant you are: https://twitter.com/andrewlbeaton/status/1577380022788169728

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33085649

what analysis have you published publicly to be scrutinized?

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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @05:20PM (#33087094)

sure is bud: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33085649

i’d love to see any substantive comment from you though

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