Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by roflyear on Sunday October 02, 2022 @05:56PM
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This isn't true at all.
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Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by mylons on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:05PM
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Hans makes the most +EV plays against unconventional Magnus openings. He’s either the greatest chess player alive, (and like Robbi can’t even explain his game, and admitted to cheating in the past) or he’s cheating. i’m happy to bet quite a bit of money that Hans is a nobody in 5 years in chess.
what evidence do you have for your position?
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by whimsicalism on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:20PM
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If you think making engine moves at the level Hans is at is evidence that he is cheating, I think you are just not very well informed about chess.
> He’s either the greatest chess player alive
Ridiculous, nothing about his play suggests he's the greatest chess player alive.
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by mylons on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:25PM
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how do you defend Hans, then? you’re just doubting what i’m saying without substance
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by whimsicalism on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:31PM
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The burden is to show that Hans is cheating OTB. I don't really know whether he is cheating OTB, although I think it is unlikely - but AFAIK there hasn't really been any statistical evidence of Hans cheating OTB and I'm not really sure what such evidence would even look like for a super GM who one would expect to routinely play engine moves.
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @04:28PM
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the burden is on you, now: https://twitter.com/andrewlbeaton/status/1577380022788169728
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33085649
but i’m sure you have quite literally nothing to refute this with but the autistic cries from the ether
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by whimsicalism on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @01:38PM
(#33098698)
If you happened to read the article you were posting, you would see this isn't about OTB chess.
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by whimsicalism on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @07:57PM
(#33088944)
stay classy
cc @dang
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by roflyear on Sunday October 02, 2022 @10:52PM
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Can you give any source to these large claims?
My position is that the statistical analysis is flawed: just think critically about it for a bit and you can understand why. It has been beaten to death already.
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @04:28PM
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just think critically about how arrogant you are: https://twitter.com/andrewlbeaton/status/1577380022788169728
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33085649
what analysis have you published publicly to be scrutinized?
Re:After chess, cheating rows rock poker and fishing
by mylons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @05:20PM
(#33087094)
sure is bud: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33085649
i’d love to see any substantive comment from you though