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Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by stjohnswarts on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:11PM (#33041901)
She's bad for italy but shouldn't be banned on twitter as she hasn't actually done anything yet. That will likely be forthcoming in the coming months. You really should take a look at her party's history. She's a lot like trump. A bit moderate-rightish but she prefers strongmen type leaders like Putin and Berlesconi, which I think speaks for her future plans as to how government "should be run"
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by yrgulation on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:05PM (#33042317)
My point is that we should respect the people of italy and their choice. We should do the same for hungary and poland. Sanctions and threats polarise voters or may even help their cause.

Maybe there is a third option, other than appeasement or threats. Maybe we can try and understand why people of now a third eu member state chose such a political leader.

Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by 312c on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:21PM (#33042438)
74% of voters in Italy did not want Meloni.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by yrgulation on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:28PM (#33042486)
Cool, we need to figure out why people dont go out and vote while we do respect those that did. Not saying we should blindly agree with their choice, but it feels like there is so much going on beneath the surface that threats will only make things worse.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by systemvoltage on Saturday October 01, 2022 @12:32AM (#33043893)
This is probably the most level headed political comment I've read on HN in a long time. Kudos.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by inkywatcher on Saturday October 01, 2022 @04:40AM (#33045050)
Ask a gay person in Orban's Hungary what respecting the will of the voters is like.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by thehappypm on Saturday October 01, 2022 @12:48AM (#33043974)
“Bad for Italy” meaning what exactly? She won fair and square.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by wesapien on Saturday October 01, 2022 @07:31AM (#33045782)
I was talking to some the other day about why a certain city which has so many minorities vote conservative. Its funny how these celebrate diversity but the moment they vote conservative they lose the ingroup status of minority. The only concern is surface level diversity. True diversity is having some progressive and some conservative thought.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by wellthatsawrap1 on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:07PM (#33042335)
Because Biden's and his handlers approach is so much better. Things are great, everything is progressing so well, the morons currently in power have us on the brink of WW3. I'm begining to think that HN has the same bot count as twitter.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by yrgulation on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:17PM (#33042413)
Coincidentally trump did threaten states with cutting funding for not voting members of his own party. A bit like our leftie ursula, indicating that political ideology is not the cause of the issue. Anyway i dont know much about us internal politics but i do know that however gets elected in the us affects us here in europe. And biden is doing a hell of a job in not appeasing putin. Not sure if his approach is good or bad but he definitely seems to put america firmly on our side. If it was up to our european allies, such as germany, ukraine would have entirely been part of russia today.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by wellthatsawrap1 on Saturday October 01, 2022 @01:20PM (#33048214)
Putin annexed Crimea under Obama's watch. He's just annex half of eastern Ukraine under Biden's watch. How much territory did Putin get under Trump's watch?? 0. Trump is way more on your side then the neocons like Nuland. You think Biden can actually form coherent thoughts? Do you think that Harris has any grasp of Geopolitics? The West has been horribly weakend by liberal democracies propped up by the WEF. Do you think any EU country has the stomach for war? Are you willing to send your sons to die on foreign soil for someone else's fight, because it sure as hell won't be US troops that get deployed.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by detaro on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:22PM (#33042445)
christ-democrats/EVP are not leftie.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by yrgulation on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:41PM (#33042574)
Oh but they are compared to republicans. I dont think the right in europe aligns with the right in the us. I think most centre right parties in europe would be seen as left in the us. But you are right the CDU is not left in strictly european terms. Thanks for pointing this out.
Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by landemva on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:23PM (#33042855)
> gets elected in the us affects us here in europe.

If you don't like it, kick USA out of NATO. Soon, please.

Crimea was part of Russia. Since 1783.

Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by yrgulation on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:32PM (#33042911)
> If you don't like it, kick USA out of NATO. Soon, please.

Oh but i love it. If anything nato should expand. Which it does.

> Crimea was part of Russia. Since 1783.

And before that it was ottoman. And before that mongol. And before that greek.

We froze borders, expect by force where people were genocidal, or by diplomacy everywhere else, after world war two.

Crimea is Ukrainian. Since 1954 love.

Out of curiosity, how did you creep in here?

Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by foverzar on Saturday October 01, 2022 @05:11AM (#33045177)
> We froze borders, expect by force where people were genocidal, or by diplomacy everywhere else, after world war two.

Who are "we"? How did you "froze" border, what does that even mean?

After the WWII the borders in Europe had shifted multiple times, from the union of eastern and western Germanies and dissolution of the Soviet Union, to the teardown of Yugoslavia, the Kosovo case being the most controversial one.

And that's just Europe, not even talking about the rest of the world.

> Crimea is Ukrainian. Since 1954 love.

In 1954 Crimea had been a part of the Soviet Union, legally an autonomous republic (Crimean Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic). I am not sure which part of it suddenly makes it Ukrainian.

When the SU had dissolved, being an autonomous republic, Crimea was supposed to become a whole independent state on its own. And it had been for 3 or so years https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Crimea_(1992–199...

It became de facto Ukraine only after Ukraine brought it forcibly under control in 1995, abolishing the status of republic.

Educate yourself, love.

Re:Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Fema... by cplusplusfellow on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:35PM (#33043254)
Can you elaborate on how “strongmen type leaders” differs from the behavior patterns of so many of our worlds leaders during and after the pandemic?