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Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by kypro on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:07AM (#33020063)
I think this what's behind the appeal of Shoegaze music and why some people get it and others don't. There's something very comforting to me about the fuzzy evolving sounds you hear in Shoegaze music. As someone with a loud anxious mind who's also prone to auditory sensory overload I find certain sounds such as those found in Shoegaze music shuts this all off.

If I'm out in public and I'm feeling anxious there's really nothing that makes me feel at ease quicker. My mind kind of melts away with the music. I guess it sounds like how putting a blanket over my brain might feel.

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by fipar on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:17AM (#33021895)
I agree completely.

While not Shoegaze, the first time I realized my inner dialogue had stopped completely for a few seconds was after the first time I listened to Washing Machine (the song, not the album, though I was listening to the album in full) by Sonic Youth. Up until then I had never though that'd be possible: I always assumed we all had an inner dialogue going on all the time (I later learned some people don't have this at all, which I find intriguing, probably as intriguing as they find that some people always have one!).

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by themaninthedark on Thursday September 29, 2022 @12:08PM (#33022645)
I have an inner dialogue, or at least I think I do. When I picked up meditation, I think I learned how to have it stop. Or at least so I don't notice it is occurring. It feels like instead of some of my brain resources being devoted to thinking or analyzing all my focus is shifted on the state of me, skin temperature, wind feel, sounds.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by drcongo on Thursday September 29, 2022 @01:03PM (#33023701)
My inner dialogue is stronger than any attempt at meditation, it thrives on me even trying.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by reportgunner on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:28AM (#33033965)
Asanas and breathing techniques help a lot with this.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by fipar on Thursday September 29, 2022 @01:33PM (#33024285)
Interesting, I was picking up meditation too around the time I had this experience, though I was not (intentionally) meditating while listening to the record.

To this day, I don't know how to stop the dialog reliably, but I know some activities and some music that help me do that (Metal Machine Music from Lou Reed works great for me, for example).

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by titoasty on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:35AM (#33022144)
This. Exactly this.

I'm more into post-rock (gy!be <3) but I totally relate to your feeling. This massive/overload wall of sound blanketing your brain.

Even if there's nearly no lyrics in post-rock, it is strictly impossible for me to work while listening to it.

And shoegaze/postrock are something you have to enjoy with headphones. The work on stereo is always phenomenal. (I wonder if some bands used binaural beats to go further this way. kinda reminds me I-doser ;) )

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by MisterTea on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:49AM (#33022364)
> As someone with a loud anxious mind who's also prone to auditory sensory overload I find certain sounds such as those found in Shoegaze music shuts this all off.

This is one of the main reasons for my love of extreme metal and other abrasive, noisy or drone genres. There are even shoegaze black metal bands (blackgaze) such as Andavald. The cacophony of the music drowns out the mental noise and I can focus on what I'm doing. Happy, up beat stuff, or clear vocals, seal focus and becomes an annoying distraction. Though classical music or certain instrumental music is soothing to me as well.

I remember reading that von Neumann was a fan of turning on the TV or radio to very loud volumes when he was working at home. Likely to achieve the same effect.

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by pizza on Thursday September 29, 2022 @01:42PM (#33024428)
> I remember reading that von Neumann was a fan of turning on the TV or radio to very loud volumes when he was working at home. Likely to achieve the same effect.

There is a whole genre of YouTube videos that is just somebody walking in the rain in a cityscape for 3+ hours. I put the video on on my TV, to get both a sense of calm and also a sense of exploration/movement. Something about the coffee shop ambience videos just no longer tickles my mind. It’s best to pair with reeally slow, long music, such as Subaeris - The City in Rain (56 minute long ambient “dreampunk” song). There’s typically a moment in this process that I feel my mind de-tense.. allowing the real work to begin

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by laurex on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:51AM (#33022384)
Putting aside the troll vocals and terrible underlying philosophies, some Black Metal has similarly lovely guitar soundwashes as well. It's an interesting paradox.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by z9znz on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:57AM (#33022483)
Not black metal, in the past I found it easiest to take an afternoon nap with Metallica, Iron Maiden, or Yngwie Malmsteen.

Later, djent style metal did the trick (preferably with the least amount of "troll" vocals). - such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyBrxxUWO28

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by nighthawk454 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @02:33PM (#33025144)
fascinating, I like all those artists but would've never tried sleeping to Metallica or Yngwie. I take it the fast tempos and high-energy don't keep you up?
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by z9znz on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:57PM (#33028459)
I think there's some mechanical nature to the rhythms, and the chords tend to be complex enough that something is going on that keeps my subconscious occupied and makes it easier to lose awareness (and fall asleep).

Or maybe it's me. I fell asleep for a minute or two in a stadium while Rush was playing Time Stand Still as a college student (so age wasn't a factor ;) ).

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by nighthawk454 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:12PM (#33111011)
wow! I think falling asleep during a Rush concert might be some new kind of cardinal sin - even if it's a relatively more mellow song :P

curious if more progressive metal works the same for you? (e.g. Dream Theater) rhythms are less regular, although kinda mathematical in some sense so I could see it still applying

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by ycombinete on Thursday September 29, 2022 @12:45PM (#33023341)
I definitely get this with guys like Alcest, Summoning, Insomnium, Lustre and (to a lesser extent) Agalloch.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by RugnirViking on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:16AM (#33020169)
Do you recommend any songs or artists? I've never heard of Shoegaze music, but I might have a listen over the next week. Always nice to find new stuff
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by resputin on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:21AM (#33020240)
Here's a great flowchart that I saved years ago as I was first exploring the genre. https://i.redd.it/rxrtulf0m5631.jpg

The three classic albums of the genre

Loveless - My Bloody Valentine

Souvlaki - Slowdive

Nowhere - Ride

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by bamboozled on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:25AM (#33020283)
If listening to "Loveless" from My Bloody Valentine, make sure your volume is low, especially if wearing headphones, you've been warned. My ears will never be the same again, thanks. Wow.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by laurex on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:48AM (#33022343)
The loudest show I've ever been to (and I've been to metal, noise, and other kinds of loud-oriented shows) was MBV, where you could actually feel the sound almost like a wave against your whole body. So I think Kevin Shields would disagree with this advice. :D
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by zeppelin101 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @12:52PM (#33023485)
This is why I never went to see them in concert. I love this band but I don't want to damage my hearing.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by JKCalhoun on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:30AM (#33021193)
Love "Machine Gun" from Souvlaki: https://youtu.be/SQ6pHlVKW9w
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by ceravis on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:02AM (#33021678)
This is a rather different style than the original, but Múm does an amazing cover of Machine Gun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii2wxG647ds
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by partomniscient on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:53AM (#33022413)
If you like those, and you haven't yet heard Flyying Colours - Wavygravy, it's linked here for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wnpiiMUJs

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by nkozyra on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:29AM (#33021180)
Two pre-shoegaze recommendations:

Cocteau Twins

Talk Talk (Laughing Stock and Spirit of Eden, post-synthwave)

This all falls under dream pop and while I don't think it has much in common with noise's effect on the brain, it can be a little disorienting due to the depth and variance in sound.

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by kypro on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:27AM (#33020309)
Bands like My Bloody Valentine and Slowdive is probably a good place to start.

If you're asking for my recommendations though, when I'm anxious this song is probably my favourite, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ4Mn2X-Wm4

Put some good earphones on, turn it up, and just let your mind shut off as the fuzz and noise slowly builds. The part around ~3.45 is almost orgasmic to my ear, but I'm on the spectrum and I'm quite sensitive to audible sounds so perhaps others don't hear it quite like I do.

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by UncleOxidant on Thursday September 29, 2022 @12:13PM (#33022723)
Lately when I'm anxious I find this one to be amazingly calming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnDcJMKCTLM

The combination of the music and the jellyfish floating by in that video.

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by N1H1L on Thursday September 29, 2022 @02:31PM (#33025127)
I would add Mazzy Star, and a lot of Jangle pop to the list too. Thurston Moore's album The Best Day is another great recent addition to the jangle pop genre.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by callahad on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:13AM (#33119368)
Not sure if I'm on the spectrum or not, but that was good, thank you for sharing it.

Seems like that particular YouTube link is unavailable (maybe just in the UK?), but I believe this is another copy of the same track, The Radio Dept. - The City Limit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNOjIJN5u7E

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by FumblingBear on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:28AM (#33020314)
A general starting place will be My Bloody Valentine's album Loveless which is usually agreed to be the album that kickstarted the genre.

There are a lot of different directions you could go from there, but personally, one of my favorite releases is Guilty of Everything by Nothing as a more modern take on shoegaze. (mid 2010's vs 90's)

Additionally, there are some critically acclaimed releases in extensions of the genre like post-metal with Deafheaven's album Sunbather being a great entry into that particular sub-genre.

Hope that gives you a bit of a starting off point!

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by dr-smooth on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:12AM (#33021828)
There are some great recommendations here for classic 90s shoegaze. I recently found a more current band that is playing some great shoegaze: Deserta. Love these guys!
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by trentearl on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:34AM (#33020405)
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by 52-6F-62 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:26AM (#33020304)
The Canadian sweethearts Alvvays are excellent. There’s more to PEI than potatoes!

https://youtu.be/eH5mqLjwg6U

Paul’s Boutique represent.

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by dvschnitz on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:26AM (#33020300)
Not op but my favorites are Slowdive, My Bloody Valantine and Ride.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by rsolva on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:02AM (#33032246)
The lovely "Simon Says No!" from Norway is a hidden shoegaze gem!
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by bilekas on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:02AM (#33020748)
kinoko teikoku long goodbye

Is a top choice and rare enough - you can find it on spotify now though !

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by replwoacause on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:16AM (#33020180)
I haven't heard of this genre before. Are there a few tracks or artists you could recommend I start with?
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by somedude895 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:23AM (#33020257)
Mazzy Star - Fade into You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m5jQy5A2U

The live version serves well to show you why it's called Shoegaze :)

My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyYMzEplnfU

Quintessential shoegaze song

Ringo Deathstarr - Sweet Girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Mgv2mn-Lg

One of my personal favorites

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by JKCalhoun on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:33AM (#33021231)
That Mazzy Star performance ... in Silicon Valley, ha ha. Playing a floppy-disk-throw from Google HQ — well, were Google there in 1994 (I guess that would be Silicon Graphics or some such).
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by replwoacause on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:45AM (#33020531)
Great, thank you! I am checking these out now.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by __david__ on Thursday September 29, 2022 @12:27PM (#33022934)
My first intro was The Jesus And Mary Chain's Psychocandy. The mix on "Taste the Floor"[1] is so crazy—the guitar is so loud it begs you to turn up the volume to "hurt your ears" levels (phone/laptop speakers will not do this justice). I swear I've lost hearing due to my love of shoegaze…

A more recent version of this kind of noise rock is The Raveonettes [2].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCtPz-guwO8

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa7JfWsMxgs

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by mckirk on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:21AM (#33020231)
Every Noise[1] has you covered: https://open.spotify.com/user/particledetector/playlist/330i...

(Though it's just an algorithm and sometimes can have opinions on what constitutes a genre that active listeners of the genre might disagree with.)

[1]: https://everynoise.com/engenremap-shoegaze.html

Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by replwoacause on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:45AM (#33020532)
Thanks!
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by jerry1979 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:22AM (#33020250)
I came across this Nothing album the other day, and it seems on point to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHtCSu_P_Ow
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by replwoacause on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:45AM (#33020535)
Cool thanks, will check this out.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by icelancer on Thursday September 29, 2022 @02:07PM (#33024801)
My intro was Airiel - The Release.
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by boringg on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:59AM (#33021647)
Is shoegaze just another term for drone music?
Re:Can brown noise turn off your brain? by CollinEMac on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:06AM (#33021731)
They're different genres but have some similarities.

https://www.last.fm/tag/shoegaze

https://www.last.fm/tag/drone