Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?”

Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @11:49AM (#32996949)

As an interviewee I'd consider the 1 day of co-working an indication that the job isn't as "100% remote" as the posting says. It's a problem now as some employers start trying to claw workers back into the office and pretend the last few years of productivity never happened. But I also have a good quality camera I turn on for interviews and meetings, so you can be sure it's me the whole time.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by Ancalagon on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @11:57AM (#32997082)

How is that a problem though if the employer is upfront and honest that its to make sure you are who you say you are, and everyone honestly wants to get to know one another?

As an interviewee I'd take this as a very good sign that the company is serious about offering me a long term position. If I'm living on the west coast and my employer is on the east coast and my contract says 100% remote I'd seriously doubt the company is trying to fool me by wanting to meet me for one day, on their own dime, without further interviews.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @12:03PM (#32997176)

It absolutely shows commitment to me getting a job, sure, but it shows that the company fundamentally doesn't trust remote workers. I would assume that I'd be spending a lot of time being asked to fly out as time went on.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by Nextgrid on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @01:06PM (#32998101)

> it shows that the company fundamentally doesn't trust remote workers

There's a difference between trusting remote employees and aspiring employees.

I wouldn't hold it against the company if they want to do proper due diligence on a prospective employee especially given real-world accounts of such frauds occurring.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by Goronmon on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @01:28PM (#32998397)

There's a difference between trusting remote employees and aspiring employees.

Why should an aspiring employee trust that a company is going to allow 100% remote if the first thing the company expects you to do is to travel into the office?

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by ghaff on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @01:44PM (#32998583)

Fully remote does not necessarily mean zero travel and very often doesn’t.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by nottorp on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @06:43PM (#33002086)

Then it's not fully remote.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by lmm on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @08:20PM (#33002870)

adverb: fully

1. completely or entirely

It absolutely does mean zero travel.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you experienced “hiring fraud?” by nottorp on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @06:42PM (#33002081)

> How is that a problem though if the employer is upfront and honest that its to make sure you are who you say you are, and everyone honestly wants to get to know one another?

Are they? I've been recently contacted for remote positions that turned out to be not remote twice.

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