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Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by csharpminor on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:04PM (#32972686)
Yeah the fact that it was the CIA releasing the video always seemed like a red flag to me. Why were they even involved in the investigation? Why didn’t those statements come from the FAA?
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by Gamecollector on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:23PM (#32973616)
- Missile system being tested in the area

- Dozens of witnesses who report seeing missiles in the weeks before and after the crash

- Multiple witnesses including Blackhawk pilots flying nearby who saw a missile hit the plane

- FBI and CIA take over and freeze out the NTSB

Yeah I'd say there were a few red flags lol

Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by ceejayoz on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:04PM (#32972694)
That's readily answerable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800

> At the start of FBI's investigation, because of the possibility that international terrorists might have been involved, assistance was requested from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

> Why didn’t those statements come from the FAA?

They wouldn't normally; without any potential of criminal activity, they'd come from the NTSB.

Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by csharpminor on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:20PM (#32972879)
So why did the CIA produce a video about the fuel tank exploding, when that is something clearly within the purview of the NTSB? Why did they continue to devote resources when it was established that it was not a terrorist attack?

Aviation incident analysis is not one of the CIA’s core competencies, but propaganda is.

Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by ceejayoz on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:28PM (#32972962)
Incident analysis - especially where explosives are concerned - is absolutely something the CIA does regularly. (As is causing such incidents.) If I asked the CIA to determine if something was enemy(ish, in this case) action, I'd expect to get a fairly detailed report explaining why or why not back.

I'm skeptical until they provide some details on the FOIL documents received.

The NTSB worked for four years and released a report, as expected.

Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by bombcar on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:02PM (#32974056)
Wouldn’t the CIA first ask if you needed it to be or not be enemy action?
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by ceejayoz on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:04PM (#32974079)
Sure, if you come to the CIA with "we need you to fake a report", they'll likely fake a report. In that scenario, though, I strongly suspect the 95% reconstructed fuselage wouldn't have been permitted to be a NTSB training aid for two decades afterwards.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by bombcar on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:09PM (#32974161)
How many other air remains had such done to it? 25 years seems a long time.
Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by ceejayoz on Sunday September 25, 2022 @02:14PM (#32974217)
MH17 was similarly reconstructed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/mh17-aircraft-wreckage-viewed-...

Modern laser scanning makes retaining the original long-term less important, apparently.

Re:Citing new evidence, families sue feds, Raytheon, Lockhee... by cronix on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:23PM (#32972921)
It sounds more like "take over" than "assistance."