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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by matsemann on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:32PM (#32904312)
No, we're just non-US people not seeing the difference between US agencies forcing FB/Google etc to hand over our data, or China forcing TikTok.

Or even US people believing their data can be misused more by their own government, than a country they will never visit.

Also, my data on Fb/Google is much, much more personal than whatever TikTok has on me.

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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by tomComb on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:47PM (#32904511)
But this conversation is about what the US should do about TikTok - it is specifically in the US context.

Also, there is a big difference between how US companies operate, and the circumstances in which they share data, and how a Chinese company operates.

A parallel is that Google pulled out of China because China demanded Google censor search results (and account security issues). You could easily retort that Google censors all their search results anyway, but there really is no comparison between what China demands and what some believe Google does anyway.

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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by krn on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:56PM (#32904616)
> No, we're just non-US people not seeing the difference between US agencies forcing FB/Google etc to hand over our data, or China forcing TikTok.

As a non-US person, I think you didn't get the point: the US agencies can only ask for data, but the Chinese agencies can push whatever software changes they want.

In other words, if China attacks Taiwan, there is nothing from stopping them of changing TikTok algorithm to deprioritize all the user content critizing its actions.

It could even make it look like the entire TikTok is supporting China just by promoting "the right" user content.

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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by largepeepee on Monday September 19, 2022 @11:50PM (#32907458)
That's not even remotely true that US agencies only ask for data.

Facebook has admitted to suppressing speech in Thailand and the US.

Twitter and reddit openly do it during election season to sway votes and opinions globally.

You must be outright blind to gross crimes you claim TikTok might do but other social media have ALREADY been caught doing.

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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by krn on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @06:51AM (#32910059)
> Facebook has admitted to suppressing speech in Thailand and the US.

> Twitter and reddit openly do it during election season to sway votes and opinions globally.

Could you provide any reputable sources that claim that such things were done under the direct request from the US agencies? Or is this your personal interpretation?

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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by JSGdev on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:56PM (#32904619)
The linked thread discusses how tik tok represents a natsec threat to America specifically. Whether y'all europeans think American bigtech is a natsec threat to non-American countries isn't really a concern right now.
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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by kfrzcode on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:49PM (#32904528)
TikTok has access to your data from FB/Google. And more.
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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by trident5000 on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:44PM (#32904461)
China has access to US users while the US does not have access to Chinese users. Thats the issue at hand.
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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by As_You_Wish on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:52PM (#32904567)
That's a good one that I didn't think of. Good job.
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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by bigtex88 on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:02PM (#32904712)
China is an authoritarian government currently engaging in genocide. The US government isn't authoritarian and is not currently engaging in genocide.

Do you really not see the difference?

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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by Xeoncross on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:47PM (#32904510)
The US companies collecting and sharing all this personal data is terrible. However, the CCP's use of personal data is another level.

If a citizen or visitor to the US criticizes the government in any way; nothing happens to them. The CCP on the other hand is quick to arrest and silence any party within their jurisdiction which is critical of the government.

Literally millions of people have died because of the CCP's tight grip on the country and strong-handed end to any opposition. Ask the uighur muslims about this.

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Re:Tik Tok is a national security threat by dang on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:09PM (#32904793)
Your other posts to this thread were bad enough, and I already replied once. But this sort of slur is beyond the pale and not allowed on HN, so i've banned this account.

It also looks like you've been using HN primarily for political/ideological/nationalistic battle, which is another line at which we ban accounts (https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...).

Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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