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Re:My productivity system by hobo_mark on Sunday September 18, 2022 @10:08AM (#32887694)
I would be willing to take productivity porn seriously, if the people obsessing over it were provably exceptionally productive (like, I don't know, "here's how I learned multiple languages and musical instruments while finishing a physics PhD as a single parent" or whatever).

For example, even the creator of SuperMemo seems a fairly average person and not the polymath/hyperpolyglot one might have expected him to be (or at least I could not find any indication of that).

Likewise, what has David Allen actually done beyond writing the same book half a dozen times?

As far as I can see this stuff mostly exists to fill a need for structure, but it does NOT make one exceptionally productive (also accounting for the time that needs to be invested in the tools and techniques themselves).

Re:My productivity system by jogjayr on Sunday September 18, 2022 @11:37AM (#32888418)
"One researcher famous for his extensive use of [Zettelkasten] was the German sociologist Niklas Luhmann (1927–1998). Starting in 1952–1953, Luhmann built up a Zettelkasten of some 90,000 index cards for his research, and credited it for enabling his extraordinarily prolific writing (including over 70 books and 400 scholarly articles)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettelkasten

Re:My productivity system by hobo_mark on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:01PM (#32888623)
Then, we have had decades to observe whether this approach (that I assume to be familiar to at least many in his field by now) actually made sociologists more productive (at whatever it is that sociologists do), or not.
Re:My productivity system by kstrauser on Sunday September 18, 2022 @03:30PM (#32890675)
I tried Zettelkasten, but I think it’s a good solution to a problem I don’t have. I take notes to remember and find information, not to publish it. ZK is more geared toward sharing with others.
Re:My productivity system by nextos on Sunday September 18, 2022 @11:30PM (#32893980)
No, ZK is only for you. It's like a personal wiki which you use for thinking.
Re:My productivity system by kstrauser on Sunday September 18, 2022 @11:56PM (#32894120)
I think that’s much closer to “Linking Your Thinking”. Short version: your PKM is a wiki. Make lots of index pages like “Restaurants Index”, with a master index that maps to all of them.

ZK wants to apply a linearity that just isn’t relevant to the things I want to record.

Re:My productivity system by nextos on Monday September 19, 2022 @09:50PM (#32906672)
Luhmann also used lots of index pages in his own original Zettelkasten.

It's also important to keep in mind that in the kind of research he did, concepts were a bit shorter.

Re:My productivity system by ar_lan on Sunday September 18, 2022 @09:02PM (#32893089)
Ahrens says as much in his book - the primary goal of Zettelkasten is writing.
Re:My productivity system by dpkirchner on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:59PM (#32889175)
I'm partly the opposite. A lot of life advise I see comes from people at the top, meaning they have all the resources they need and are looking for a way to maximize their time. Their methods may not be applicable to randos like me, so I tend to dismiss it.

Stories by people that were once at the middle rungs and made it to the top through better organization would be a lot more interesting and relatable.

Re:My productivity system by chke on Sunday September 18, 2022 @11:23AM (#32888295)
Re SuperMemo: Well, there is his huge wiki[1] in which he writes pretty long articles about a wide range of topics. So I'd say he is very productive.

[1] https://supermemopedia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Re:My productivity system by hobo_mark on Sunday September 18, 2022 @11:49AM (#32888539)
I tried, I just wasted a few minutes clicking "Random Page" and ALL results are about the supermemo software itself, most are support emails republished as wiki pages.
Re:My productivity system by stjohnswarts on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:22PM (#32888797)
like the other guy said "wide range of topics". If you click random you just go to short article after short article about the app?
Re:My productivity system by supersrdjan on Sunday September 18, 2022 @07:13PM (#32892368)
Click one of the articles from the front page. The short articles about the app are because the wiki is also used to answer questions from users of the app.