Successfully graduating from u of phoenix I heard was no easy feat. They didn’t teach much or at all and failed most of their students. To actually graduate from there required a great deal of drive and determination. The program was designed to fall so to succeed against that is a undervalued accomplishment. It was completely worthless for signaling though.

The caliber of student going into MIT is a lot different than UOP but the net ADD from MIT is probably not as big as you expect especially compared to any other accredited institution which UOP was not.

> The caliber of student going into MIT is a lot different than UOP but the net ADD from MIT is probably not as big as you expect

the net add of being surrounded by high caliber students is immeasurable in a positive way. The professors are experts, if the students can handle it, the professors deliver more material, faster. It's a huge add, there is no substitute for it.

> It was completely worthless for signaling though.

Everyone I know who was going through their program had a structured pay scale where a graduate degree got them more money regardless of the degree. It was effective for signalling you wanted to get more money without learning much.

I never really thought grad students knew much more than under grad they were just willing to grind for longer. There are exceptions in some fields where undergrad programs are really weak but that master’s is simply a signal that You will continue to grind hard