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Re:Plasma Bigscreen by safety1st on Friday September 16, 2022 @07:11AM (#32864575)
Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage.

The basic thing going on here is simply that the KDE guys are working on a 10' experience and that's great, there is no good 10' experience today on Linux. Unless you count Steam Big Picture mode I guess? But a desktop environment which knows what to do about 10' would be really exciting.

Edit: for anyone who's interested, this appears to be the repo for the Bigscreen project: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-bigscreen/activity

The distro images on the website may be out of date.

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by kwhitefoot on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:00AM (#32864921)
The splash screen makes it look like this is something you can simply install on a television of your choice.

It is perfectly reasonable to criticise the marketing when it gets in the way of the message. Having to find and read the FAQ to discover that it is basically just a prototype desktop environment for existing distros is a bit silly.

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by sbarre on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:21AM (#32865135)
I will admit that at first glance I thought this was a firmware hack for TVs, and I immediately started digging around the site to try to find a list of compatible TVs...

Once I found out what it was, it was still quite cool and I am curious to follow development, but I agree the site design/layout/copy is confusing at best, misleading at worst.

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by Lammy on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:32AM (#32865254)
> I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage.

Totally reasonable to feel this way, but personally I think naming is so important that it transcends any technical merit a project might have.

For my own projects, I never write a single line of code until I come up with a name I truly love. Some times it takes weeks, but then the project has an identity which keeps me motivated over the long term and actually inspires my technical choices of what to build.

Compare to the “Yet Another” naming scheme which (to me) feels like a preemptive apology for a project’s mere existence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yet_another

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by pdimitar on Friday September 16, 2022 @09:19AM (#32865711)
> Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website.

Or it's a strong signal toward the creators that their clever idea for naming was only clever in their heads and nowhere else?

I too got confused and was wondering "is this a project to revive old plasma TVs somehow?".

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by LoganDark on Saturday September 17, 2022 @12:12AM (#32874706)
The marketing screenshots aren't too attractive honestly. It seriously seems to be lacking in consistent margins and padding. Look at the menu bar for example-- those icons are far too large for the space they fill. They look super cramped.

This is, somehow, typical in most Linux software I've used. They just don't care. :/

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by accountofme on Friday September 16, 2022 @09:26PM (#32873984)
> there is no good 10' experience today on Linux.

What about Xbmc/Kodi? Works great on a raspberry pi hooked up to my TV... Has been doing that since the early 2000's when it ran on my brothers Xbox (original) but that was pre-Linux.

Edit: spelling

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by ncmncm on Sunday September 18, 2022 @01:39AM (#32884726)
100% CPU redrawing the screen continuously. Or was, last I checked.
Re:Plasma Bigscreen by safety1st on Friday September 16, 2022 @10:24AM (#32866427)
Here's a link with a lot more information. The big news today is that the UI component for Bigscreen has just gone live as a part of the KDE 5.26 beta, which is relatively straightforward to install on any Linux distro (or image to a USB stick): https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.25.90/

Maybe the post's main link should be changed to this one? That Bigscreen website seems to be confusing and out of date.

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by chungy on Friday September 16, 2022 @10:59AM (#32866933)
It makes me happy Big Buck Bunny is still being used for demonstrations.
Re:Plasma Bigscreen by brodouevencode on Friday September 16, 2022 @07:53AM (#32864868)
What is a "10' experience"?
Re:Plasma Bigscreen by safety1st on Friday September 16, 2022 @07:55AM (#32864884)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-foot_user_interface

There are 10' experiences for Linux (Kodi, Plex, and Steam Big Picture are what I know of), but these aren't integrated into the desktop, they are focused on TV/movies and gaming respectively, so KDE focusing on this problem is something new.

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by brodouevencode on Monday September 19, 2022 @09:22AM (#32897946)
I've never heard this term. Thanks for the great explanation.
Re:Plasma Bigscreen by Lammy on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:00AM (#32864917)
It’s the common term for a user interface that’s large and legible to users sitting across a room from the display: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-foot_user_interface
Re:Plasma Bigscreen by kwhitefoot on Friday September 16, 2022 @07:57AM (#32864897)
Sitting three metres from the screen I presume.
Re:Plasma Bigscreen by JosephGuerra on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:29AM (#32865216)
No way. that would be a 9'9" experience, I believe..

Although I think your point is correct.

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by LoganDark on Saturday September 17, 2022 @12:14AM (#32874716)
I'd say 10' is within the margin of error considering how many significant figures they gave in their estimate.
Re:Plasma Bigscreen by chasil on Friday September 16, 2022 @07:52AM (#32864862)
Is this essentially Lineage for smart TVs?

Can the vendor OS be wiped from these devices?

If so, is there a list?

Re:Plasma Bigscreen by safety1st on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:03AM (#32864958)
I think that's close to, or part of, their vision: https://plasma-bigscreen.org/vision/

What they have in the Downloads section now is basically a variety of distro images which you can run on a Pi, or a device that supports pmOS, etc. There's a long way to go before you could buy any random smart TV and flash this onto it. Though maybe less long if you have a smart TV with an embedded Pi which might be a thing these days?