> needing an expansion card for something as basic as ethernet seems stupid to me

“I never have to undergo those complicated hardware upgrades, because a Mac always comes with everything already.”

— http://www.absurdnotions.org/page129.html

Disagree, don't waste my ports on something most people won't use on a thin and light laptop. Gaming laptop? I get it, but for most uses of this machine I'd rather just connect to WiFi

It's worth bearing in mind that _all_ ports on the device are expansion cards, including the USB-C port that the device needs to actually charge. In any case I think WiFi is 'good enough' for most use cases, and as such the number of laptops that provide ethernet as standard is rapidly diminishing. I very rarely need an ethernet port on my laptop, but for the times I do it'd be very helpful to have it installed rather than needing a dongle flapping about.

Well yeah, this is what I consider "stupid".

I prefer the "oldschool" way... give us a bunch of usb ports, ethernet, sd card reader, one or two video out options, etc. then add a few (back in the time pcmcia/expresscard) expansion ports for other things.

The current options seem like configuring a car, and having a steering wheel as an optional addon module.

again, as I said, I might be getting old :)

Eh - I was mostly in your camp until I got a work machine with nothing but USB-C.

Turns out... it just really doesn't matter much, and there are a bunch of upsides.

Namely - I can charge on either side, with basically any decent usb-c charger, and I can plug it into basically any usb-c dock. Those are pretty huge points of convenience. They actively make my life a lot better (seriously - a single charger for all my devices while traveling is SO fucking nice - two laptops, headphones, phone, remarkable... one charger).

The only caveat? I have to throw a single usb-c dongle into my laptop bag for the occasional time I need it. My pick of choice is the pinephone dongle (https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-usb-c-docking-bar-dark-...) since it's cheap, has ethernet and HDMI, plus two usb ports, and works with basically every usb-c device I've plugged it into, on any OS.

Big plus? That dongle is way, way smaller than the extra chargers I'd be lugging around otherwise.

the USB-C port is a passthrough port because the other side is also USB-C