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Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by coffeeblack on Friday September 09, 2022 @08:42AM (#32778417)
No, worst case is that “climate change” is used as an excuse to destroy democracy and rule of law “to save the world”, because radicalised people attack anybody who even sounds like they may have any doubt. It wouldn’t be the first time a true and just cause was abused for that end.
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by jandrese on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:08AM (#32778722)
Please cite any instances where serious climate change activists threatened democracy or the rule of law or even discussed it.

It would be completely counterproductive. One of the biggest problems with Climate Change is that it requires mass collective action, and that requires a stable and rational government or organize. Were climate change activists to promote anarchy it would be impossible for them to achieve their goals.

Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by 988747 on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:14AM (#32778783)
They do not promote anarchy, they promote totalitarian rule. Put all those 'climate change deniers' in prison, force them to eat bugs instead of meat, deny them any human rights, that kind of thing.
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by jandrese on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:15AM (#32778800)
So when you say a "threat to rule of law" you mean too much law? That seems confusingly worded.
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by coffeeblack on Friday September 09, 2022 @10:36AM (#32779779)
Once people are sufficiently radicalised, laws are not required anymore to put an “enemy” in prison (or worse).

For most young Westerners who have never known anything but rule of law, that’s probably difficult to imagine.

Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by micromacrofoot on Friday September 09, 2022 @01:56PM (#32782666)
literally no one with power has seriously proposed anything like this — quite the opposite in fact, the previous US president suggested that windmills cause cancer
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by specialist on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:05PM (#32832847)
Forgive me for interrupting your attempts to refute the "Liberal Fascism" trolling...

One scenario I've heard, and has me a bit worried, is climate crisis begets a right wing reactionary environmentalism. Basically all the same nativist, anti-immigration, isolationist, anti-trade, yadda yadda, but with an "environmental" justification.

So instead of mitigating or undoing the damage, the reactionaries would be energized by protecting what we have from "the other".

Not too hard to imagine a crackdown, if scarcity leads to hunger leads to unrest.

Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by micromacrofoot on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:50AM (#32779212)
If ecofascism triumphs over the current surge of ethnonationalism I'll still take that as a win. Doesn't seem likely though given current events and the totality of human history though.
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by coffeeblack on Friday September 09, 2022 @10:10AM (#32779455)
Could you imagine that their might be a third alternative?
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by micromacrofoot on Friday September 09, 2022 @10:28AM (#32779684)
Oh of course, I don't think either of those scenarios will actually come to fruition.
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by coffeeblack on Friday September 09, 2022 @12:23PM (#32781214)
*there
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by bowsamic on Friday September 09, 2022 @08:47AM (#32778462)
What makes you think that's the worst case outcome of climate change?
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by 988747 on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:16AM (#32778810)
Because that's the one that actually can happen, unlike apocalyptic visions of "Earth burning", or "famine"
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by ben_w on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:24AM (#32778909)
You think famines are unlikely? They've been the irregular default prior to the modern age; I think it will require active efforts to prevent them no matter what happens with the climate.
Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by 988747 on Friday September 09, 2022 @10:03AM (#32779373)
Climate change might actually increase amount of arable land, by millions of acres, in higher latitudes: Sweden, Finland, Greenland, Canada, etc. It will also increase total rainfall. https://phys.org/news/2018-05-climate-arable.html

Yes, it won't be seamless, but we can adjust to new conditions.

Re:Exceeding 1.5°C global warming could trigger multiple cli... by marketneutral on Friday September 09, 2022 @08:57AM (#32778579)
"I'd rather watch the Earth burn than let 'wokeness' ruin the ideals of free market capitalism!"