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Re:Patreon laid off their security team by ZephyrBlu on Thursday September 08, 2022 @06:42PM (#32773008)
Patreon takes the lowest cut of any platform. Only something like 12% vs most others taking 20-30% or more.

E: see this video https://youtu.be/bGvfYv5nzs0?t=138

Re:Patreon laid off their security team by nomel on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:04PM (#32773237)
12 cents on every dollar seems like an absurd amount of money, for a relatively basic microblog.
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by tomcam on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:34PM (#32773475)
Have you ever had to do your own accounts receivable, fraud detection, government compliance, and subscription management?
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by TakeBlaster16 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:00PM (#32773678)
No, but I have paid Stripe 3 cents on the dollar for pretty much all of the above. To be fair our business was much smaller than Patreon
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by dns_snek on Friday September 09, 2022 @07:52PM (#32786265)
This is absolutely false, Buy Me A Coffee takes a 5% platform fee and ko-fi takes 0%, this doesn't include the usual CC processing fee which is relatively minimal (Stripe rate).
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by Dylan16807 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:44PM (#32773555)
Generally, their users don't need a platform, they need a payment processor.
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by ZephyrBlu on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:59PM (#32773672)
If they didn't need a platform they could use Stripe directly.
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by Dylan16807 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:01PM (#32773687)
If stripe had a better UI and would batch payments then that would work pretty well, yeah. As-is that would probably not work out well.
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by ZephyrBlu on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:42PM (#32774329)
So you're saying that platforms are useful...
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by Dylan16807 on Friday September 09, 2022 @12:15AM (#32775217)
We're talking about payment processing vs. platform, right?

"Good UI" doesn't make something a platform.

Doing payments in a fee-minimizing way definitely doesn't make something a platform.

Re:Patreon laid off their security team by stevenicr on Friday September 09, 2022 @10:06AM (#32779404)
I've been under the impression that patreon makes a bunch of their cash from people selling nudes (and perhaps owes their brand popularity to the groups of nude sellers that were using them) and that stripe refuses to deal with anyone that does nudes (?)
Re:Patreon laid off their security team by michaelt on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:26PM (#32773413)
Maybe, but that's pure profit.

This isn't like a newspaper, finding neither ads nor paywalls will make ends meet. They're not phone app developers, finding users will barely pay $1. It isn't an ad-supported business that can only make a fraction of a penny per user. Their moderation needs are at a pretty small scale, with most user accounts tied to known bank accounts. They don't have to negotiate with rights holders for copyrighted content and get taken to the cleaners. They don't have to store and distribute gigabytes of video per second. They don't face big customer acquisition costs.

Youtube and Twitch are doing a lot more work for their cuts.