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Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by colordrops on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:35PM (#32760403)
If Apple and especially Google really wanted to support PWAs, they'd add first-class support for them on their app stores, but they don't really want to do that, as it would weaken the walls around their garden.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by rayiner on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:47PM (#32760494)
More because web apps are awful. Even Gmail is awful and god knows how much money goes into developing that.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by encryptluks2 on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:54PM (#32760562)
Gmail is awful compared to what? I'd estimate a majority of people disagree here unless you're more of an IMAP purist.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by Nicksil on Thursday September 08, 2022 @01:21AM (#32761494)
>Gmail is awful compared to what? I'd estimate a majority of people disagree here unless you're more of an IMAP purist.

GMail is bloody awful. I can hardly stand using it. Been using Thunderbird for a while now and have not many complaints.

The whole "IMAP" purist thing is unnecessary; there are plenty who prefer not using the GMail interface and have no idea what IMAP is.

Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by thiht on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:01AM (#32764282)
What's "bloody awful" about Gmail? All the mail clients look the same to me, you got folders and sorting on the left, a list of mails, and when you click on a mail you can read it.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by caeril on Thursday September 08, 2022 @12:54PM (#32768275)
> What's "bloody awful" about Gmail?

Telemetry, activity tracking, etc.

NeoMutt doesn't send everything I do to a persistent log accessible to data broker parasites and NSA functionaries.

Not being turned into cattle watched over by an enormous Panopticon is a pretty major Killer App feature.

Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by n8cpdx on Thursday September 08, 2022 @01:59AM (#32761744)
Outlook Web App has been pretty great IMO. Way better than desktop and way better than Gmail. Just my opinion.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by encryptluks2 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @11:10AM (#32766732)
Last I checked even their "smart" folders synchronization was broke. I've never had a good experience with OWA and find Microsoft constantly crippling or breaking products which somehow seems to also make their users some of the most Stockholm syndromed people I've ever dealt with.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by n8cpdx on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:28PM (#32774230)
It doesn’t randomly decide to hide email from me, that puts it leagues above Gmail by default.

I like that it has critical features like a sane approach to contact lists and “sweep”. I also like that I can send a message with priority - a feature mysteriously still missing from gmail.

Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by rayiner on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:02PM (#32760624)
Outlook 98.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by encryptluks2 on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:53PM (#32760559)
Google already does this to a larger extent:

https://blog.pwabuilder.com/posts/publish-your-pwa-to-the-io...

It is Apple that has had issues with PWA support.

> While WebKit is making progress on PWA support, at the time of this writing, PWAs remain a second-class citizen on iOS. The iOS App Store’s support for PWAs is non-existent, requiring a web view-based solution like PWABuilder’s.

> Additionally, because iOS doesn’t allow 3rd party browser engines, your PWA is limited to WebKit’s PWA capabilities, which are currently lagging behind other browser engines.

Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by colordrops on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:05PM (#32760660)
Really? What's an app on the Google app store that is really a PWA? And I mean an actual PWA and not a PWA wrapped in an app.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by encryptluks2 on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:18PM (#32760754)
They do need a showcase, but I believe there are several. bubblewrap is an official framework for publishing them but I don't know if you consider that wrapped in an app or not.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by esperkin39 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:32AM (#32764057)
If you're on a Chromebook, the default Twitter and YouTube Music install is a PWA.
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by pjmlp on Thursday September 08, 2022 @01:19AM (#32761487)
Re:Why haven’t PWAs killed native apps yet? by matchagaucho on Thursday September 08, 2022 @12:56AM (#32761346)
Chrome Extensions are a related Cousin, though.