I ended up giving my airpod pros to my partner. I found both the connectivity and sound quality (as well as noise canceling) much better on my Sony WF-1000MX4s.

edit: isolation replaced with canceling

The WF-1000MX4s are absolutely PERFECT with the sole exception of the non-tactile controls. If they replaced the touch sensors with actual buttons, they would be the best earbuds on the market.

I have a pair, but haven't used too many gestures, since it seems somewhat limited. I was very surprised that you cant even accept/reject a call with a gesture. Just curious, why would you get buttons instead of sensors?

> Just curious, why would you get buttons instead of sensors?

Two things:

1. Long hair. If your hair is in the way, you have to brush it away before the sensors will correctly register your input.

2. Beanies. If you wear an acrylic beanie (due to the aforementioned long hair), there is enough capacitance detected in contact with the material to generate spurious, and unwanted, inputs.

Tactile buttons would solve both of these issues.

There are plenty of other bluetooth headphones that don't suck...

I have literally zero problems with these: https://www.amazon.com/AfterShokz-Open-Ear-Wireless-Conducti...

They work everywhere - across my phone, laptop, personal laptop, hell - even my nvidia shield tv. Across Win/Linux/macOS/Android/iOS.

Connect just fine - play just fine. Reconnect just fine. Pair just fine.

I'm glad you like the Airpods, but damn is this some crazy bullshit thing to be claiming.

I have seven devices that I use my AirPods with - an iPhone, iPad, Watch, computer, and two AppleTVs. Once I paired them with one device, they are automatically paired with every device connected to my AppleID. They switch seamlessly without me having to do a thing.

I also don’t have to decipher beeps to change settings. I can change anything about them visually from any of my devices.

It's not like other bluetooth headphones can do this. My Jabra Elite won't work with their own app half the time on devices that are officially supported!

Cool beans. the one I linked sure as fuck does, though.

Of course they can't do the same auto connection, but in my experience airpods work at least as well with non-apple devices as any other Bluetooth headphones.

> but in my experience airpods work at least as well with non-apple devices as any other Bluetooth headphones.

Ding ding ding... Of course they do - and that's my point.

They're moderately nice on apple if you're entirely on that ecosystem, and utterly the same on everything else (frankly - I think they're actually much worse than some of the nicer headphones you can get, but that's not bluetooth related at all).

Good to know we agree.

You mean you can pair to one of your devices and it will automatically show up and paid to every other device you possess without having to do anything?

Yes, because amazingly enough, neither Linux or Pinephone are great user experiences in an of themselves.

A garden is usually a nice place where things are nicely pruned and organized. Unlike going out into the wilderness like our forefathers scavenging…

I'm no longer sure what you're talking about. I am responding to this point:

> "Unfortunately every other Bluetooth headphones suck when it comes to connectivity and stable playing."

and it's complete rubbish. The vast majority of high end bluetooth headsets work just fine (some are even FAR better in terms of battery life, comfort, and range - with no stability issues at all)

I'm glad you get a slightly improved experience when you stay in your walled garden, but that has zilch to do with my point - I'm not in that garden.

So your response of "Well it works ok if you [do this thing you're not doing]" is mostly a tangent that's not relevant.

I had no issues with 3 phones and my notebook with my like two years old sony WF-1000XM3.

And yet I've had problems with every AirPod I've owned (Normal, Pro, and Max) and at this point, with the issues with the Max, I'm fed up. It's awful, and for the price I've paid, I should not be having these issues.

Same here, so many issues that always led to dead earphones after <18 months.

I won't be buying any more Apple headphones after my current Airpods Pro dies (already quite unreliable charging in the case, so unless I check and place it down gently I'm likely to come back and find it out of battery from one of the earpieces having been on the whole time).

I only stuck with airpods this long because their bluetooth functionality really is great especially when I was in a little apartment with an Apple TV as well as my phone. But they're really disappointingly unreliable, badly overpriced, and Apple support around them is always terrible (in my experience in the UK).

I love my samsung pods and they dont look like retarded white bars spilling out of my head holes