No update in the mini phone form factor either. Even as a 6' tall dude, I would appreciate more emphasis on the smaller devices.

I forgot where I read it, but there's a rumor that Apple is only planning to release a Mini phone every other year.

+1. Especially as other manufacturers would soon follow.

For ladies or just those with smaller wrists?

Plenty of ladies have larger risks than me (a man)

Size is probably driven by the size of the electronics, size of batteries, and size of screen. You could probably get a usable system on a smaller screen, but the rest of it, I suspect, is already up against the limits of what we can manufacture today.

There is a general trend of huge watches though outside of these concerns. Omega seamaster used to be available in 36mm. No more. Even the larger ones went from 40mm to 41mm, and last year they upped it to 42mm.

It is. Watches lost the timekeeping service long ago, so their main purpose now is /only/ being a symbol of status.

(Thats why I'm happy with my wristwatch, it shows the time and day of the month. Nothing more. I wouldn't mind a perpetual calendar, only to avoid those three days a year when they don't sync with the ideosyncrazies of the human's calendar)

Sure, and I would very much prefer that we had more small watches (and phones, while we're commiserating). I'm just questioning whether a thing recognizable as an Apple Watch can be any smaller than it is today.

May be we can start a new trend, but instead of Z-height and making things slimmer, let's just make the phone and watch thicker but smaller X,Y dimensions.

They also mentioned being able to use it with gloves on. You'll need bigger controls for that. Plus reading and interacting with it underwater probably is better with a bigger screen as well.

I’m a man with 6 1/4” wrists, a 40mm traditional watch looks enormous on my wrist, I can’t even imagine what a 2” wide Apple Watch Ultra would look like.

My every watch is 36mm, I’d definitely buy a sub 40mm Apple Watch.

Who are the 38mm now 41mm for? Ultra is 49mm.

Are folks wanting something the size of a jacket button?

Can ladies not wear big watches?

Most ladies, and many men like myself have small wrists, so the "small" apple watch is already quite large compared to normal watches for most woman or men with small wrists. The "large" would over hang on many of those people, so you can only imagine how a 49mm would fit for most woman and people with thin wrists.

I had always heard that the regular Apple Watch was one of the smaller (smallest?) smart watches out there. Is that not the case?

Even in the Apple keynote demo videos, one of the female models had a tiny wrist with a giant watch on it. Not the most stylish look.

As a small-wristed male, I would also love a thin watch, without a lot of the sensors.

Yes, I'd be happy with even just the the extra side button to start workouts and such, since whenever I put on the homescreen it mistakenly gets started when crossing my arms or such and gets pressed. I imagine that may eventually come to the regular models.

Making miniature electronics is really hard!