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Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by ak_111 on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:44AM (#32724865)
You can tell that being rejected by YC isn't that strong indicator for success given the number of YC startups who have been public about having only got into YC in their third or even fourth attempt. In my book that is equivalent to being rejected, and YC only accepted them after they basically made it.

YC is also very public that a significant number of every batch have been rejected a couple of times. So basically being rejected by YC is not even a strong indicator that you won't be a YC success.

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by NetOpWibby on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:51AM (#32724949)
Yeah I don’t see the point in applying anymore (I’ve applied twice). Why bother?

I found a bunch of “first check” VCs but out of the ~30 I contacted, only 4 responded with some level of, “Ahh, that market hasn’t been proven but keep in touch!”

With YC it’s, “You didn’t get selected but keep trying!”

The only need I have for VC money is freedom to work on my ideas full-time and continue to feed my family. I guess I’ll keep bootstrapping.

A close friend once told me, “Rejection is protection and redirection.” (:

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by testmasterflex on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:03PM (#32727980)
Mind sharing your startup?
Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by NetOpWibby on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:39PM (#32728428)
Sure! It's actually two businesses but they work in tandem; a registry (Neuenet) and a registrar (beachfront) on the Handshake blockchain/protocol (a decentralized alt-root…I know, bear with me). When the software I'm building is solid in production, it will be open-sourced (alongside a hosted service).

As an example, let's say you owned the Handshake TLD .testmasterflex…you'd be able to create SLDs (domains) and manage everything quite easily with my software. Currently, Handshake is in its second year and the ecosystem is quite barren so it's not friendly for non-devs. I have ~1k TLDs and setup websites secured with DANE and DNSSEC for ~900 of them. It was tedious, to say the least.

You may be thinking, “Okay, but hasn’t this been tried before? What makes Handshake so different?”

What I’ve gathered is, while alt‑roots have come and gone over time, Handshake came along at a great time; with a bunch of investment and an incentivized rollout to get developers interested in building upon it…and it’s working.

We’ve got ICANN‑accredited registrars like Porkbun, Encirca, and Namecheap selling Handshake domains. Namecheap even owns a handful of Handshake TLDs! The parent company of Porkbun, Top Level Design, operates .gay and .wiki on the ICANN side and claimed those names on Handshake. On top of that, we’ve got plenty of Handshake resolvers for your OS/platform of choice: macOS, Linux, Windows, iOS, Android, whatever. If that’s not support, I don’t know what is.

Anyhoo, lemme get off my soapbox to share some links.

- https://blog.neuenet.com/post/why-get-a-tld

- https://neuenet.com/

- https://blog.neuenet.com/

- https://twitter.com/neuenet

- https://twitter.com/beachfront_

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by ad404b8a372f2b9 on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:19PM (#32729615)
No offense but after reading this I have no idea what your business is or why I'd want to use it and I reckon >90% of tech people reading this won't either.

I'd suggest really dumbing it down.

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by NetOpWibby on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:48PM (#32729894)
No worries! The simplest example I could give is I'm building a Verisign and GoDaddy on crypto. Most people don't know who Verisign is either, nor do they need to.

People don't care about blockchains for the sake of decentralization or whatever, they'll care if they can build cool shit on it easily though. It'll be easier to show when I'm ready to launch.

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by ipaddr on Monday September 05, 2022 @09:30PM (#32731567)
So you make money when some registers a domain? What volume % do you expect?
Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by NetOpWibby on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:16AM (#32733574)
Bingo, and when someone with Handshake TLDs wants to do the same but would rather not get a VPS, setup databases, &c.

Initially, I expect volume to modest. The Handshake community will be the early adopters/speculators. Once the registrar gains features like a website builder and one-click install integrations (Wordpress, Gatsby, whatever), I'm going to reach out to creatives I admire to see what they can do.

I don't expect to set the world on fire or make millions within some short timeframe. My main goal is to empower people to build dope shit they wouldn't otherwise be able to build on traditional domains.

Slow and steady focus/growth.

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by tthun on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:02AM (#32725084)
Do you have a handy list of first check VC’s that you can share ?
Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by NetOpWibby on Monday September 05, 2022 @12:13PM (#32725947)
I'll have to go through my list but for now, here's a thread of VCs who don't require a warm intro: https://twitter.com/TheLizNunez/status/1557354399093198849
Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by NetOpWibby on Monday September 05, 2022 @12:31PM (#32726179)
Went through my Pinboard to extract all these:

- https://797capital.com/

- https://www.indexventures.com/

- https://www.sparkcapital.com/

- https://www.hcp.com/

- https://hvflabs.com/

- https://www.republiccapital.co/

- https://plus.vc/

- https://www.rarebreed.vc/

- https://www.dragonfly.xyz/

- https://macventurecapital.com/

- https://parafi.com/

- https://www.chingona.ventures/

- https://www.plexocap.com/

- https://lowercarboncapital.com/

- https://www.blckvc.org/

- https://www.gsr.io/

- https://rbf.capital/

- https://www.allraise.org/

- https://betaworksventures.com/

- https://www.gfrfund.com/

- https://www.hustlefund.vc/

- https://www.atelierventures.co/

- https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/

- https://www.nfx.com/

- https://645ventures.com/

- https://backstagecapital.com/

- https://panteracapital.com/firm/

- https://femalefoundersfund.com/

- https://susaventures.com/

- https://atomic.vc/

- https://homebrew.co/

- https://www.cowboy.vc/

- https://foundersfund.com/

- https://www.kaporcapital.com/

- https://www.felicis.com/

- https://www.cleocap.com/

- https://www.ggvc.com/

- https://www.haystack.vc/

- https://www.menlovc.com/

- https://www.battery.com/

- https://www.nea.com/

- https://www.greycroft.com/

- https://group.softbank/

- https://twosigmaventures.com/

- https://www.redpoint.com/

- https://www.angellist.com/

- https://luxcapital.com/

- https://lsvp.com/

- https://www.bvp.com/

- https://upfront.com/

- https://uncorkcapital.com/

- https://greylock.com/

- https://www.khoslaventures.com/

- https://www.accel.com/

- https://www.generalcatalyst.com/

- https://www.gv.com/

- https://www.footwork.vc/

- https://www.flybridge.com/

- https://trueventures.com/

- https://www.socialcapital.com/

- https://angel.co/unpopularvc/syndicate

- https://vibe.vc/

- https://www.sahilbloom.com/fund

- https://www.untitledventures.xyz/

- https://outsetcapital.com/

- https://www.breadandbutterventures.com/

- https://fiftyyears.com/

- https://precursorvc.com/

- https://www.sterlingroad.com/

- https://www.laconiacapitalgroup.com/

- https://www.malaikaventures.com/

- https://twitter.com/TheLizNunez/status/1557354399093198849

- https://theopportunityfund.com/

- https://www.january.ventures/

- https://www.ganas.vc/

- https://www.lightship.capital/

- https://velocityincubator.com/

- https://www.barodaventures.com/

- https://www.alchemy.com/ventures

- https://panteracapital.com/

- https://chapterone.com/

- https://www.at.inc/

- https://hyper.com/

- https://www.afore.vc/

- https://m13.co/

- https://www.adaptvc.co/

- https://variant.fund/

- https://www.bigbrain.holdings/

- https://500.co/

- https://hypersphere.ventures/

- https://race.capital/

- https://www.visiblehands.vc/

- https://www.hashed.com/

- https://www.newmancapital.com/

- https://ngc.fund/

- https://kindredventures.com/

- https://www.behindgeniusventures.com/

- https://elevate.vc/

- https://www.konvoy.vc/

- https://baincapitalcrypto.com/

- https://slow-prod.herokuapp.com/

- https://blockchain.capital/

- https://www.sequoiacap.cn/en

- https://india.sequoiacap.com/

- https://arc.sequoiacap.com/

- https://www.sequoiacap.com/

- https://tobacapital.com/

- https://twitter.com/susanfsu/status/1481332788859064322

- https://www.lererhippeau.com/

- https://www.cooleygo.com/what-you-should-know-about-safes/

- https://amentum.org/

- https://www.shrug.vc/

- https://www.operatorlps.com/

- https://chapterone.com/en/

- https://www.weekend.fund/

- https://www.bananacapital.vc/

- https://www.marcyvp.com/

- https://www.openvc.app/

- https://www.overlookedventures.com/

- https://tychepartners.com/

- https://www.bbgventures.com/

- https://kickstartfund.com/

- https://www.realistventures.com/

- https://www.worklife.vc/

- https://feld.com/archives/2006/02/why-most-vcs-dont-sign-nda...

- https://angeltrack.firstround.com/

- https://www.allvuesystems.com/

- https://firstround.com/

- https://a16z.com/

- https://forerunnerventures.com/

- https://www.pjc.vc/

- https://harlem.capital/

- https://brandfoundry.com/

- https://montageventures.com/

- https://www.ubiquity.vc/

- https://imaginary.co/

- https://www.nycfounderguide.com/

- https://www.maveron.com/

- https://www.forerunnerventures.com/

- https://www.primary.vc/

- https://apx.vc/

- https://fifthwall.com/

- https://formcapital.com/

- https://www.noemisventures.com/

- https://www.reachcapital.com/

- https://torchcapital.vc/

- https://www.designerfund.com/

- https://framework.ventures/

- https://www.usv.com/

- https://www.pear.vc/

- https://www.kleinerperkins.com/

- https://initialized.com/

- https://www.expa.com/

- https://www.serenaventures.com/

They aren't all "first-check" VCs, just every VC I've bookmarked.

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by notRobot on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:39PM (#32727663)
This is really useful, thank you!
Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by blitzar on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:18AM (#32725275)
> YC only accepted them after they basically made it

Everytime I watch dragons den I get the same feeling. You have $1m in orders this year, which should be a profit of 200k, sure I will give you 100k for 20% of your company.

Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by arturkane7 on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:40AM (#32725553)
it is very tempting to go to dragons den even if you made it. Basically getting a 10 minute free advert on prime time BBC.
Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by csunbird on Monday September 05, 2022 @12:29PM (#32726154)
I’d be surprised if other VC’s are not watching the show and making offers to rejected applicants.
Re:Ask HN: YC misses that went on to do well (like veed.io) by blitzar on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @06:45AM (#32735293)
I doubt many of the companies would take the money - almost all are cashflow positive and really want exposure