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Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by sandworm101 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @10:08PM (#32719750)
>> There are very very very few places without electricity in the world.

Today. Right now. This is happening. Not Africa or Antarctica. In Canada. In a national park during a busy long weekend.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/be-prepared-officials-warn-of-po...

" Should the situation worsen, Richard Ireland, Jasper's mayor, recommended residents and visitors to the park ensure their essential electric devices remain fully charged and that their vehicles have full tanks of gas — since gas stations rely on electricity.

"We are already prepared to move to generated power for our own critical infrastructure, but that does not power lights in a residential home or your fridge or anything else," Ireland said. "So be prepared.""

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by seanmcdirmid on Sunday September 04, 2022 @11:46PM (#32720310)
> ensure their essential electric devices remain fully charged and that their vehicles have full tanks of gas — since gas stations rely on electricity.

They could also advise that "your EV batteries remain fully charged since EV charging stations rely on electricity."

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by epistasis on Sunday September 04, 2022 @11:20PM (#32720144)
Yes that is a story, but what is its relevance to what I am writing?
Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by sandworm101 on Sunday September 04, 2022 @11:42PM (#32720278)
A huge number of people are about to lose electricity at precisely the time they most need it, should they need to flee in an EV. Lack of electricity is not a rare occurrence.
Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by epistasis on Monday September 05, 2022 @12:35AM (#32720561)
From the exact same quote, gas doesn't get pumped when the electricity goes out either:

> Jasper's mayor, recommended residents and visitors to the park ensure their essential electric devices remain fully charged and that their vehicles have full tanks of gas — since gas stations rely on electricity.

I think there's a huge logical gap that people have when it comes to EVs.

The number of places with functioning gas pumps but no electricity is a rounding error.

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by katbyte on Monday September 05, 2022 @01:00AM (#32720719)
I can keep a couple jerry cans of gas around and toss them in the back of a ICE to get 150-200% of my range, or share with people in need. You cannot do this with an ev.
Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by epistasis on Monday September 05, 2022 @01:15AM (#32720807)
Sure thing, but keeping 10 gallons of gasoline is more than a couple of cans. And even then, so what? How many people need to do that, or will ever do that, except for off-roading or obscure jobs?

This is a legitimate use, but for a vanishingly small number of people. Back when LED lights were first being pushed, we saw a lot of the same resistance to a new product that was superior for nearly every single use case, except a vanishingly small number of use cases. EVs are really similar. In 10 years we will look back on the resistance to EVs and find it a bit silly and overly fearful.

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by katbyte on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:55AM (#32724999)
20L can is half to a quarter of range, two 20L cans will fill the tank of a miata, half the tank of a tacoma.

For people in a city who never leave it? EVs are great. Everyone else not so much. Personally I think plug in hybrids are the future because they overcome this but seems everyone just wants to push pure evs.

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by epistasis on Monday September 05, 2022 @06:43PM (#32730369)
EVs are great for anyone who hasn't had to haul around extra gas in cans to get to where they want to go. Which is easily 99% of the population.
Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by massysett on Monday September 05, 2022 @06:35AM (#32722731)
LED lights burn out prematurely in over half the fixtures in my house because they are fully enclosed. The bulbs can’t take the heat. This is true even for bulbs that claim they are suitable for use in fully enclosed luminaires. I have switched back to compact fluorescents.

It seems to me that EV advocates aren’t very similar to what we see with LED bulbs. EV advocates refuse to even acknowledge that EVs are not for everyone. Instead they want to ban alternatives. At least I can still buy compact fluorescent bulbs.

It’s as if laptop computer advocates wanted to ban desktops. Surely the laptop is all anyone needs.

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by epistasis on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:13AM (#32724521)
You say: "EV advocates refuse to even acknowledge that EVs are not for everyone."

But my comment was: "This is a legitimate use, but for a vanishingly small number of people."

Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by osigurdson on Sunday September 04, 2022 @11:42PM (#32720277)
Perhaps because you suggest that the areas OP is referring to have near zero population when clearly that is not the case.
Re:EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted by epistasis on Monday September 05, 2022 @12:52AM (#32720656)
That is not the sort of area I was referring to. This area is served both by electricity and gas stations. And the quote has a reminder that, just as with essential electric devices getting charged, such as an EV, people should keep a full tank of gas.

And I would note that it's far easier to keep a full charge when you do your charging at home than it is when you need to leave the house to prepare and fill up on gas.