Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities

Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by snapcaster on Thursday September 01, 2022 @08:48AM (#32675567)

You are misremembering. Not really your fault, if you're american like me you were only exposed to absurd quantities of propaganda. Worth looking into what things the US did again you'll probably be pretty upset

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by michaelwww on Thursday September 01, 2022 @08:54AM (#32675621)

I found some isolated incidents of war crimes by the US in Iraq. There's nothing like command sanctioned massacring of civilians like the Russians are doing in Ukraine. Can you provide some more info?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#Iraq_...

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by tawaydoo on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:07AM (#32675737)

I think it’s a bit of a dodge to say ‘the US followed the rules!’ when the entire premise for the Iraq war was willfully fabricated.

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by fartsucker69 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:16AM (#32675820)

the known number of civilian deaths from various direct or indirect war actions (i.e. bombing etc.) is around 200.000, with around 10-20k being attributed to the U.S by most estimates.

russia is getting closer every day but they'll take a while to reach it yet. but they are comparable numbers.

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by addicted on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:51AM (#32676201)

Russia’s numbers are only lower because they’ve largely been defeated.

If Russia had not been pushed away from Kyiv as dramatically as they were then their numbers would be a lot worse.

Also, Ukraine has better public transport, etc. and a functional government and support from the rest of Europe for its refugees, which has given civilians time and opportunities to relocate.

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by meheleventyone on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:52AM (#32676205)

There are reports of around 10k civilian deaths in Mariupol alone so they might be way beyond that already if it’s substantiated.

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by dougmwne on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:00AM (#32675663)

Help us out. What exactly are you talking about?

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by cuttysnark on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:50AM (#32676178)

US Govt: We're the good guys!

US Media: We're the bad guys!

US Subject: I'm confused, but I do trust this actor..

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by dontlaugh on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:42AM (#32676099)

The Blowback podcast is pretty good on this topic https://blowback.show/Season-1

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by t6jvcereio on Thursday September 01, 2022 @08:51AM (#32675596)

Instead of saying "it happened", it would be a lot more persuasive if you'd spell it example. What cities did the USA raze in Iraq? Be specific, give me names so I can look it up.

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by truffdog on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:33AM (#32675995)

Fallujah and Mosul (post occupation, but they provided artillery and air support, so...)

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:47AM (#32676145)

Raze means to completely destroy. Please cite a source that they were completely destroyed.

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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by xeromal on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:48AM (#32676156)

No need for this kind of discourse. Just give them the cities.

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