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Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by fartsucker69 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:16AM (#32675820)
the known number of civilian deaths from various direct or indirect war actions (i.e. bombing etc.) is around 200.000, with around 10-20k being attributed to the U.S by most estimates.

russia is getting closer every day but they'll take a while to reach it yet. but they are comparable numbers.

Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by addicted on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:51AM (#32676201)
Russia’s numbers are only lower because they’ve largely been defeated.

If Russia had not been pushed away from Kyiv as dramatically as they were then their numbers would be a lot worse.

Also, Ukraine has better public transport, etc. and a functional government and support from the rest of Europe for its refugees, which has given civilians time and opportunities to relocate.

Re:Armies are re-learning how to fight in cities by meheleventyone on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:52AM (#32676205)
There are reports of around 10k civilian deaths in Mariupol alone so they might be way beyond that already if it’s substantiated.