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Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by quickthrower2 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:40PM (#32670771)
Low carb diet helped me with this. Calories in calories out, but if you have a lot of carbs you are going to get hungry when restricting the calories, whereas on a low carb diet I sometimes have to think hard as to whether I have had breakfast or not by 10am. Having woke up at 7am. "Oh I should probably eat something..."

I think I have less than 50g of carbs a day, and probably 1500 calories but I don't track it too closely. I also do strength, but a little each day and make it incidental. I might play with the TRX or do a few pull up or dips at the park while the dogs are off leash.

Something that makes it easier is there are low carb treats and drinks. It does mean taking in more alcohol (as in chemically an alcohol, not ethanol) based sweeteners, so I worry about that a little.

For someone who doesn't go out much this is easy, but in your younger years with social pressure it might take a lot of will power, and even changing your friends and breaking up with partners and so forth to support this kind of habit, since it goes counter to the average person's culture in the west. Especially quitting alcohol too.

Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by SOLAR_FIELDS on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:52PM (#32670877)
Quitting alcohol and going to OMAD (one meal a day) helped me lose 20 kilos in < 2 months. And I wasn’t even obese, that was straight from overweight to goal weight. Alcohol is an enormous contributor to weight for several different reasons. Plus, the weight you get as a drinker (the “hard” fat) is the worst kind of fat your body can have.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by JoyfulTurkey on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:59PM (#32670941)
Wow, 20 kilos in less than 2 months seems like a heck of a lot. Any issues with gallstones?

I lost a nice bit of weight at the start of the pandemic when I stopped drinking (primarily a beer drinker). It is really surprising how much of an effect it can have.

Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by aerophilic on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:22PM (#32671110)
The rule I have seen, and have followed is to target 1-2 lbs (about 0.5-1kg) per week. Any more than this and you start having issues where your skin doesn’t shrink at that same rate, or your body having issues baselining to the new weight[0]

Personally, while tough to keep that as an average weight, I was successful doing this, primarily by going to one meal a day, and limiting calories (especially carbohydrates). Only issue is your body does end up burning fat, which makes your feel a bit more “oily”.

[0] https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/losing-weight-too-fast

Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by odshoifsdhfs on Thursday September 01, 2022 @06:43AM (#32674524)
As with all guidelines, this always depends on the starting point and personal data.

If you are on the heavier side and a heavy drinker and carb eater, going low carb/no alcohol you will lose easily 10 kilos in a month (mostly being water weight).

If you are a healthy weight and eating normally with a glass of wine here and there, 0.5-1kg is probably a good range (and probably around 70% of it being fat loss)

If you are lean, 0.25-0.5kg a week is a good goal (and probably 50% will be fat).

Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by SOLAR_FIELDS on Friday September 02, 2022 @11:46PM (#32698468)
No issues with gallstones. It was 230 lb to 185 lbs also at the start of the pandemic (May-July 2020). I have managed to mostly keep it off (currently 190, but have yo-yo’d back up to 200 once), despite resuming drinking and being a semi heavy drinker. Mostly due to diligence around keeping an OMAD style diet.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by decremental on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:05PM (#32670985)
Cutting out the booze is huge. A lot of people underestimate just how much weight you can put on from drinking.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by knicholes on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:23PM (#32671120)
Protein & carbohydrates: 4C/g. Alcohol: 7C/g. Fat: 9C/g.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by marginalia_nu on Thursday September 01, 2022 @04:34AM (#32673639)
Satiety is much more important than energy density.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by SOLAR_FIELDS on Friday September 02, 2022 @11:48PM (#32698483)
Alcohol makes you crave calories in general and specifically carbs, which is in my experience a double whammy. I might never even want a pizza for weeks, but put three beers in me and I want to eat half or more of a large pizza.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by TheFreim on Thursday September 01, 2022 @08:43AM (#32675520)
I have also done one meal a day previously, works wonders. For those interested, it's difficult for the first week but it gets much easier after that. Was able to lose 20 pounds last year without changing exercise.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by strken on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:53PM (#32670886)
A lot of success in fixing your diet comes from experimenting and seeing what works for you. Low carb can help some people, while particular carb-heavy but satiating foods like oats or potatoes can help others. I don't think it's always clear-cut.
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by quickthrower2 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:00PM (#32670949)
I agree. Everyone needs to be their own doctor, because they have an intuition for their own body. (Dieting is being your own doctor by the way!)
Re:U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutiv... by prmoustache on Thursday September 01, 2022 @03:03AM (#32672984)
Additionnally, regardless of the diet a key is to relearn to eat slowly. By eating too fast we tend to feel satiated too late.