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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by jimmaswell on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @04:16PM (#32570869)
Alternate viewpoint, we have more than enough students graduating in Computer Science and other STEM fields, many of whom have a hard time finding a job because most companies don't want to invest in training anyone up anymore, and they're enabled by the H1B program. If we incentivized/forced companies to build people up from basic college graduate again, it would be even better than finding skilled immigrants.
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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by mywittyname on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @04:27PM (#32571015)
H1B employees cost a lot more to employ than fresh grads. On top of having to pay above average wage, companies have to employ lawyers to handle a lot of paperwork.

> most companies don't want to invest in training anyone up anymore

The past four companies I've worked for had training programs for new employees and internship programs to funnel college students into jobs after graduation. Maybe bad experience on your part?

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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by atwood22 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @05:09PM (#32571554)
Do H1Bs really earn above average wage? Haven’t seen that. Overall, H1Bs increase the labor supply, which decreases the price of labor.
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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by yieldcrv on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @09:23PM (#32573918)
depends on the field

but its a bad and outdated assumption to make, at least for tech

department of labor forces companies to submit compensation data

someone aggregates this on h1bdata.info

(the data is not uniform though, as some companies are including total compensation and this is normalized as “salary”)

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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by outworlder on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @09:51PM (#32574099)
In tech? Absolutely.
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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by atwood22 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @11:59PM (#32574824)
They earn above the tech average wage, or they earn above average wage in the country? If they work in tech, but earn below the average tech wage, then they’d actually be bringing the average wage down when you consider the opportunity cost.
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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by nxmnxm99 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @04:43PM (#32571208)
The average H1B is more talented than the average American STEM graduate. That's why they're having trouble getting jobs.
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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by KerrAvon on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @04:59PM (#32571427)
You're basing that assertion on what data? If that's really the case, our schools need to do a better job of prioritizing entrants into STEM classes -- talk to a prospective CS student at Stanford or Berkeley and ask them how easy it is to get into the program, for example.
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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by nxmnxm99 on Friday August 26, 2022 @01:29PM (#32610402)
Why are you comparing to Stanford and Berkeley students? They're not having issues finding STEM jobs.
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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by tangjurine on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @09:55PM (#32574130)
I would agree, from my anecdotal experience.
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