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Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by sremani on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @11:14AM (#32566099)
People are making an error based on the past 20 years of debt binge and capital flooding that took over the world.

When the FDI dries up, India is a very weird place. The energy costs will put a number in Asia and Europe in the next decade with dramatic food security challenges.

Overall, at macro level, US beats India, but are there positive offshoots in some niches.. perhaps!

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by weatherlite on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:24PM (#32569006)
India is getting Russian oil pretty cheap now as far as I know, and most likely Iran as well. The U.S is not immune to the energy problem btw, Shale oil is getting more expensive because all the easy spots were already used.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by frontman1988 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @03:48PM (#32570454)
India imports more than 90% of it's oil.India hardly has any natural energy reserves good enough for it's huge population. It's definitely going to be tough to fullfill the aspirations of 1.5 billion people who will have increasing energy demands while supply will be perennially limited. If per capita consumption of India even has to reach China levels, it's going to be a massive challenge even with renewables involved. Energy security of India doesn't look good unless they try doing something like the good old introducing democracy in the middle east.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by programmer_dude on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @04:19AM (#32576330)
FWIW, India has about one third of the world's reserve of thorium.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by sremani on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @03:22PM (#32570003)
I cannot argue here. What would go wrong, if Russian Oil and Gas are foundational to your Energy Security.

Let me call Angela Merkel.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by dfadsadsf on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @08:18AM (#32578379)
To be fair, Europe was first to start trade war and ramp it up to 100%. Russia is just responding in kind. Europe had a choice in whether to back Ukraine or not (including pushing it to reject Russian demands before the war) and risks were known in advance.

Considering India and Russia has no common border and global interests are mostly aligned, repeat of situation is extremely unlikely. With any critical import you take a risk but this one is pretty small as far as geopolitical risks go.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by weatherlite on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @03:45PM (#32570391)
It's very unlikely Russia will do anything to mess up what they have going with China and India...because they don't have much other alternatives. I am not talking morals here ... I am calling it as it is. This has nothing to do with morals.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by bluGill on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @06:15PM (#32572314)
If Russia did reasonable things they wouldn't have attacked Ukraine. Since we are talking about a Russia willing to do stupid things there is no reason to believe they won't mess with India or China.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by weatherlite on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @07:00PM (#32572726)
> If Russia did reasonable things they wouldn't have attacked Ukraine

If the U.S did reasonable things they wouldn't have attacked Iraq.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by ss2003 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @08:04PM (#32573300)
Attacking Iraq was a very, very bad idea. Attacking Ukraine is suicidal.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by random314 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @09:06PM (#32573800)
Suicidal for whom?
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by _kbh_ on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @01:41AM (#32575327)
Russia. I don't see how anyone can see the massive losses Russia has had as well as the lasting impacts of sanctions as anything but suicidal. Russia cannot even build a modern car with ABS and airbags, let alone a plane or a tank while sanctions are in place.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by weatherlite on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @10:15AM (#32579737)
They will get whatever tech they need from China in return for their oil and gas. I also think for sure overall invading Ukraine was a bad move but calling it suicidal sounds like a reach to me; at least as far as we can see so far - Russia is holding on and shows no signs of cracking.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by _kbh_ on Thursday August 25, 2022 @12:09AM (#32589381)
I don't think they will find drop in replacements for all the parts, or even replacements in general that meet the same quality standards for some of the parts. This issue will likely require a drastic redesign of a large number of parts and will halt production for a while.

> Russia is holding on and shows no signs of cracking.

I don't understand how people can think this when Russia is heavily recruiting from prisons and rolling out ancient T-62s, Russias modern weaponry continually gets depleted whilst Ukraine gets more modern weaponry every month. I think the first main cracking point will be the Russian retreat / Ukrainian recapture of Kherson in the coming months.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by weatherlite on Thursday August 25, 2022 @06:47AM (#32591972)
Honestly I have no idea how's the fighting going there...it seems like we've reached peak interest a few months ago unfortunately. Russia can just keep Ukraine in this weak state, maybe fire a few rockets now and then. It doesn't even have to keep up the invasion if it doesn't want to...Ukraine would still be a very dysfunctional country with the threat of Russian invasion always on the background. No one sane will want to invest or buy an apartment there. What does Russia gain out of all this shit I have no idea but my point remains is that Russia can keep this up if it wants to. The average Russian citizen is either fine with what's happening (surprisingly many) or too afraid to do anything. It's very hard to predict but the chance of Russia making it like this cannot be ignored imo. If you want to this how a country can make it like this look at Iran.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by _kbh_ on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:21AM (#32592723)
> Honestly I have no idea how's the fighting going there...it seems like we've reached peak interest a few months ago unfortunately. Russia can just keep Ukraine in this weak state, maybe fire a few rockets now and then.

This is not an option, due to the amount of lives and equipment lost I don't think Russia has the option to pull out. It's a bit hard to have 50k casualties and lose thousands of pieces armoured equipment, hundreds of planes and just be like 'actually that was for nothing'.

> Ukraine would still be a very dysfunctional country with the threat of Russian invasion always on the background

I think Russia has more of a problem the longer the war goes on Ukraine is already going to receive NASAMS and IRIS-T anti air equipment from the US and Germany, which would significantly change the balance in the ability for Ukraine to control the sky.

The weapons aren't going to stop until Ukraine wins, pulling out also means losing Crimea and all the other gains they had made from 2014 until prior to the full on invasion.

Ukraine is more than capable of hitting installations in Russia even in their current degraded state, I don't think anyones gonna let Russia go back over the line and wash their hands of it.

> What does Russia gain out of all this shit I have no idea but my point remains is that Russia can keep this up if it wants to

Can it though? Russia is quickly running out of pretty much everything, they aren't using T-62s (tanks that don't even have a autoloader, a staple of Russian and even USSR tanks) because they want to its because they have to. I think the systemic corruption in Russia means they cannot fight this war for that long, for more then now? sure, but for years? im not so sure.

> The average Russian citizen is either fine with what's happening (surprisingly many) or too afraid to do anything. It's very hard to predict but the chance of Russia making it like this cannot be ignored imo. If you want to this how a country can make it like this look at Iran.

The longer this goes on the more the average Russian will be affected, the more assets that will be seized, the more people that will be sanctioned and the more companies that will pull out.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by weatherlite on Thursday August 25, 2022 @09:30AM (#32593447)
It's fun playing predictions but truth is no one knows what is going to happen. I hope Russia retreats and gives up as you are implying but I am very skeptical it will happen soon. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised...
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by random314 on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @03:47AM (#32576081)
Russia is a virtual entity. The real person involved is Putin, and it is hard to see how this affects Putin at all.

With Bush's invasion of Iraq, he ran the risk of losing the 2004 reelection. Putin doesn't even face that risk.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by _kbh_ on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @03:54AM (#32576126)
if Russia loses the war and the army collapses there could be some very consequences from Putin, and that it seperate from the consequence of the slow moving collapse of the Russian economy that has already started.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by random314 on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @11:26AM (#32580659)
The Russian rouble is outperforming the usd this year. That does not look like a collapsing economy. In fact, it has gained 40% on the euro.

If Russia loses, they will withdraw to their borders. In the worst case they lose access to the Caspian sea. If not, they will acquire Ukraine.

The real loser is Ukraine, no matter what happens from here on.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by _kbh_ on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @11:06PM (#32588961)
> The Russian rouble is outperforming the usd this year. That does not look like a collapsing economy. In fact, it has gained 40% on the euro.

It only looks like this because it’s being propped up by massive cash spending of Russian foreign reserves and because it cannot be traded internationally in any significant volume.

If the economy is doing so well why did Gazprom and Sberbank cancel it’s dividend with Russia?. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/30/state-firms-gazpro...

> If Russia loses, they will withdraw to their borders. In the worst case they lose access to the Caspian sea. If not, they will acquire Ukraine.

If Russia losses they lose access to their Black Sea headquarters and also Crimea. They also face quite badly, but I guess that’s really already come to pass no one thinks Russia is the number two army in the world anymore.

Even if Russia did capture Ukraine they would face a long insurgency that would make Afghanistan look like a cake walk. I initially thought Russia would capture a lot of land early on but I didn’t they would be able to hold it, and we already seeing this with how many collaborators and Russian soldiers keep dying in occupied cities from partisans.

> The real loser is Ukraine, no matter what happens from here on.

This is hundred percent true but they lose much harder if they just let the genocidal Russians take over Ukraine and keep committing genocide against them.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by rakejake on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @12:30PM (#32567348)
Not all countries are blessed with the nature's bounty that the US is blessed with. I agree Energy is something India will be working on furiously in the coming decade. I presume both nuclear and renewable will be expanded rapidly. In the interim, India does have good relationships with most energy producing countries (Russia, Saudi).

What food security challenges does India have? India has been much poorer in the past and hasn't had any food security issues in a long time.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by jamal-kumar on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @01:42PM (#32568394)
I remember when the price of onions went from well under a dollar for a single large onion to about a dollar or more for a large one when there was an enormous amount of flooding in india around 2019-2020, ruining their crops. Apparently the onion is a huge staple out there compared to the Americas and so they needed to source onions from pretty much everywhere else.

It sounds like a trivial price increase maybe to some people in more affluent countries but some in Latin America, it was a pretty challenging price increase.

My personal groceries bill is about 25$usd per week, meat vegetables and a bit of cereal goods. Used to be less within a decade ago, but hey what can you do - North America I was paying closer to 100

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by eldaisfish on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @01:44PM (#32568426)
India is entirely dependent on the monsoon for fresh water. When combined with a warming climate, this is a disaster waiting to happen. I am 100% confident that we will live to see the days when food scarcity returns to India. Mind you, indian soils are some of the most fertile in the world so this really is an alarming scenario.

India's past issues with food scarcity were due to a combination of mismanagement and theft. Partly the british empire and partly the lack of skills in India. Widespread crop failures haven't been a thing for a while now.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by wowokay on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @03:35PM (#32570236)
I feel like a good relationship with Russia is not a plus for India right now.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by vkou on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @06:53PM (#32572651)
Why? They treat eachother like partners, not like vassal states, and the rest of the world is not treating India like a pariah, despite its relationship with Russia.

It's a win-win for India.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by naravara on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @12:29PM (#32567331)
The US may beat India in macro level economic factors for quite a while to come, but for a more senior professional with a marketable resume I think it's not too hard to find the positive niches.

Honestly the main thing that keeps me from moving back is quality of life concerns with traffic, air quality, and noise pollution.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by radicaldreamer on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:13PM (#32568850)
I think the pollution, weather, water quality, noise, dust, and overall lack of high quality public spaces is a big deal.

India is amazing and dynamic in a lot of ways, but there are major intangibles to account for (like how much one values a quiet evening walk in fresh air).

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by Ar-Curunir on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:21PM (#32568965)
You don't have to live in a Delhi or a Mumbai or a Bangalore. Cities like Dehradun, Ranchi, and more provide many of these amenities.
Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by sremani on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @03:20PM (#32569963)
The most important amenity is Employment. Only a small portion of people would move to tier-2 seconds and that too because of familial ties not some over whelming amenities.

By and large NRIs moving back from US end up in the usual metros at least in the beginning.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by jitix on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @05:18PM (#32571660)
I grew up in a state capital and lived in 2 metro cities and honestly the infrastructure was better in my home city in terms of electricity, water and flooding. But there are very few tech jobs, which gives the 2-3 employers there huge leverage due to the lack of job mobility.

Hopefully between fibre penetration and WFH culture things will improve.

Re:H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home by spaceman_2020 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @07:14PM (#32572836)
Man there is really nothing much to do in these smaller cities. It gets boring very fast. There is also a culture that’s very socially intrusive. People will drop in on you unannounced randomly.

Which is great if you’re a socially extroverted person but if you want to get some work done, not the best case scenario