The erosion of the Mac experience

Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by piva00 on Saturday August 20, 2022 @08:46AM (#32531651)

I live in Europe and 95% of the engineers I've worked with here in major companies use a Mac. A few use Linux, absolutely no one I know (300+ developers I've interacted/paired with in the past 7 years) had a Windows machine. Not a single one.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by kramerger on Saturday August 20, 2022 @08:53AM (#32531701)

Exactly where have you been working?

I haven't seen that many macs outside design departments in any big European company I have visited.

Some big companies such as Sony actually have Linux as their first choice, windows second.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by pid-1 on Sunday August 21, 2022 @12:32PM (#32541769)

Which sort of software is used to manage large fleets of Linux clients? Like, what are the alternatives for Active Directory and MDM?

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by piva00 on Saturday August 20, 2022 @09:48AM (#32532036)

Large-ish tech companies in Sweden.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by kramerger on Saturday August 20, 2022 @12:10PM (#32533066)

Absolutely not my experience from Scandinavian companies (Volvo, Ericsson, Saab, ABB,...)

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by ksec on Sunday August 21, 2022 @03:20AM (#32538062)

>Volvo, Ericsson, Saab, ABB,...

I know this sounds silly or wrong, but most dont think of those as "Tech" Companies. Modern world uses of "Tech" now mostly means Software.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by kramerger on Sunday August 21, 2022 @07:54AM (#32539280)

Sony Mobile is definitely a "modern tech company" and they are Ubuntu first. At the same time a company like Volvo or ABB is these days probably 60% software development and at most 40% mechanical engineering.

I think you are living in a bubble.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by ksec on Sunday August 21, 2022 @11:37AM (#32541205)

>I think you are living in a bubble.

I am not, considering I am the only defending 5G and Ericsson on HN. But you should say that to the rest of HN.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by piva00 on Monday August 22, 2022 @02:54AM (#32548168)

Industry/hard engineering companies here do tend to go Linux on their SWE machines, I've interacted with multiple SWEs from Volvo and Ericsson on some of my employers' projects (again, including pairing sessions) and none of them were Windows users. Mostly Linux and Mac.

Software companies do skew extremely into Mac territory, I really don't recall anyone ever using a Windows machine and very few run their ThinkPads with Linux, the vast majority have a Mac as a daily driver.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by jeltz on Sunday August 21, 2022 @06:50PM (#32545291)

Sure, the old giants use Windows (and some Linux) but those are exceptions. There are plenty of Mac and Linux use in younger tech companies here.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by pjmlp on Saturday August 20, 2022 @11:34AM (#32532783)

Outside iOS projects, and our designers, I have seldom see people use Mac's.

In fact our Java folks get macbooks as option, and eventually many of whom end up migrating to ThinkPads with Red-Hat/Windows, when starting to deal with complex workloads.

On the .NET teams everyone is on Windows ThinkPads.

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Re:The erosion of the Mac experience by jononomo on Sunday August 21, 2022 @01:03PM (#32542119)

These are java developers, though, so probably the dregs.

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