Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

Re:Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers? by Barrin92 on Thursday August 18, 2022 @03:08AM (#32506291)

I think that's venturing into tinfoil hat territory. More likely telemetry told them that some percentage > 50 always toggle the bookmark bar off and they decided to make it the default. It's still there on new tabs after all. Companies like Google are long term greedy, they don't make unpopular UX decisions for scraps.

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Re:Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers? by mattlondon on Thursday August 18, 2022 @03:48AM (#32506571)

More likely there was a large amount of telemetry saying that the bookmark bar was visible but never used by a large group of users.

I can never imagine e.g. my mum turning the bookmark bar off, but I can certainly imagine her just totally ignoring it/not knowing what it is.

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Re:Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers? by malepoon on Thursday August 18, 2022 @09:39AM (#32509416)

It's true though. You see something similar with the address bar: Chrome's is pretty horrible for accessing history or bookmarks, it instead tries to push you to do a search. Firefox has much richer information here.

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Re:Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers? by ithrow on Thursday August 18, 2022 @12:25PM (#32511704)

Companies like Google are long term greedy, they don't make unpopular UX decisions for scraps.

Like not letting you add tags? not tagging definitely makes you use google search more.

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Re:Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers? by westurner on Thursday August 18, 2022 @03:47PM (#32514050)

"Do you like the browser bookmark manager?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24511454 :

> Things I'd add to browser bookmark managers someday:

> - Support for (persisting) bookmarks tags. From the post re: the re-launch of del.icio.us: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23985623

>> "Allow reading and writing bookmark tags" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916

>> Notes re: how [browser bookmarks with URI|str* tags] could be standardized with JSON-LD: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916#c116 *

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WICG/scroll-to-text-fragment "Integration with W3C Web Annotations" https://github.com/WICG/scroll-to-text-fragment/issues/4

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W3C Web Share API & W3C Web Target API https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30449716

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Re:Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers? by amadeuspagel on Thursday August 18, 2022 @01:43PM (#32512693)

I think both tags and folders would confuse people. I'd personally like them to remove folders and have only tags, but you can already imagine the HN comments ... google screwing with bookmarks to make you use search more ... not compatible with other browsers (import/export) ... monopolistic ... lock-in.

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