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Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by jjtheblunt on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:02PM (#32477947)
> This is about fighting back to the tyranny of upper management

hardware engineering requires shared access to tens of millions of dollars of shared equipment.

disclaimer: ex Apple hardware engineer who used tens of millions of dollars of equipment.

Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by darth_avocado on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:09PM (#32478009)
Okay, so hardware engineers can work from the office. Having a single set of rules for everyone else that doesn’t need to come in is something I don’t agree with.
Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by deeptote on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:22PM (#32478121)
Woah get out of here with your nuanced approach, this is the Hackernews comment section.
Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by knob on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:14PM (#32478052)
So don't work at Apple?

Their company, their rules.

Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by Apocryphon on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:15PM (#32478067)
Voicing dissatisfying as part of a mass popular outrage is a good way to get rules changed. Leaving a company also achieves that, but is a little more drastic.
Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by jjtheblunt on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @02:08PM (#32486530)
I keep coming back and reading your idea about "mass popular outrage".

I wonder if that pattern has almost been commodotized, because of social media, to the point where it has less impact than a few years earlier.

Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by Apocryphon on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @02:29PM (#32486782)
I've long-considered that social media outrage, even something tech-specific like blog articles getting passed around on HN, is sadly sometimes the most effective form of customer service on these huge platforms that have mostly automated support:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17689749

Oh, hey, over a decade ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2493645#2494528

As far as it being commoditized, I think it might work a little differently in examples like the OP where the outraged people is the workforce itself. It's a more focused audience.

Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by sircastor on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:27PM (#32478178)
If you don’t like it, there’s the door? That’s a terrible solution to a problem. The my way or the highway approach assumes there is no room for growth or understanding of other positions. This is the root of no-compromise.
Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by the_only_law on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:31PM (#32478200)
That’s the point
Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by emptyparadise on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:21PM (#32478117)
My labor, my rules. How about we compromise?
Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by c0nducktr on Monday August 15, 2022 @11:23PM (#32478858)
What are you getting out of posting that comment?

Do you think choosing employment based on conditions of employment has just never occurred to people on this website?

"Their company, their rules." Yeah, no shit. Great observation.

Re:Apple tells employees to work at the office three times p... by Apocryphon on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:09PM (#32478011)
The OP literally quotes Craig!