Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting my content and data?

Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by echelon on Saturday August 13, 2022 @08:21PM (#32455060)

We could create a very lightweight "signature" for everything we create.

- User does not permit this post to be used for the training of AI/ML systems.

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Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by verdverm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @08:29PM (#32455100)

There are fair use laws, even for copyrighted material

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Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by Buttons840 on Saturday August 13, 2022 @08:59PM (#32455289)

Yep, and adding the lightweight signature and then suing would be a great way to have the courts reaffirm the strength of fair use laws. That might come in handy for the people in the future. Because Facebook (or the next) will happily ignore the license I put on my personal blog while gathering training data -- fair enough -- and I just want to be able to ignore their license when I'm training my own model off what I took from Facebook.

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Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by verdverm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @09:50PM (#32455595)

https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

> Courts evaluate fair use claims on a case-by-case basis, and the outcome of any given case depends on a fact-specific inquiry. This means that there is no formula to ensure that a predetermined percentage or amount of a work—or specific number of words, lines, pages, copies—may be used without permission.

How might the removal of fair use be used against you? Going to court is an expensive proposition, even if you win

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Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by echelon on Saturday August 13, 2022 @11:28PM (#32456059)

Does training ML models using random online materials fall under fair use?

I'll bet that's not established by any legal precedent.

One court case could bring the house of cards down.

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Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by verdverm on Sunday August 14, 2022 @11:15AM (#32459930)

LinkedIn lost their case to prevent scraping, that serves as precedence

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Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by falcolas on Saturday August 13, 2022 @08:38PM (#32455164)

You're not wrong. But it also does not feel right.

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Re:Ask HN: Any way to ban GPT-4 and others from harvesting m... by verdverm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @09:42PM (#32455560)

It's better to base these things on reason, rather than emotion.

What are the other consequences of removing fair use? How many journalists would be impacted? How would your ability to be informed be impacted? How might corporations abuse this to take down reviews or commentary on their products?

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