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Re:CEO Shadow Program by dang on Friday August 12, 2022 @08:52PM (#32445785)
> Edit: if you are going to downvote, at least don’t be a coward and provide feedback

I know downvotes can be frustrating, but please don't give in to the temptation to add things like that last bit. It's against the site guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) because, as they say, it never does any good and makes for boring reading. It also just attracts more downvotes.

Re:CEO Shadow Program by skissane on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:12PM (#32445925)
Have you ever thought about a rule, that you can only downvote a comment if it has at least one reply (by anybody, not necessarily the downvoter)? That would discourage the demoralising situation where someone gets downvoted but is left guessing why.

Of course, there will be some comments which do not merit a reply (non-substantive contributions or blatant trolling) - but, those comments should be flagged anyway. Maybe count flags as downvotes (if they aren’t already), so you could still downvote reply-less comments by flagging them.

Re:CEO Shadow Program by pvg on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:35PM (#32446073)
That would discourage the demoralising situation where someone gets downvoted but is left guessing why.

It encourages replying to bad comments which is already a bigger problem than the sting of an unexpounded-upon downvote. 'No receipts required for downvotes' makes HN better.

Re:CEO Shadow Program by jzig on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:41PM (#32446107)
Strongly disagree. Maybe most people don’t receive feedback. But I believe there is at least a minority that does and can be influenced by feedback. Similar to US politics.

Edit: Notice how I upvoted you rather than downvoted out of disagreement

Re:CEO Shadow Program by tptacek on Saturday August 13, 2022 @01:30AM (#32447196)
He doesn't notice that, because votes at the margin are random, and 4 times out of 5 people complaining about voting can just wait and whatever's bothering them will be rectified organically.
Re:CEO Shadow Program by dang on Saturday August 13, 2022 @01:25PM (#32451909)
The downvoted commenter would still have no way to tell whether the downvote was related to the reply, since those would most often be coming from different users.
Re:CEO Shadow Program by jzig on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:18PM (#32445964)
That’s a great idea! Or something like it.
Re:CEO Shadow Program by jzig on Friday August 12, 2022 @08:55PM (#32445806)
Agreed. Thank you, just frustrating. I will remove “coward” ;)
Re:CEO Shadow Program by nabakin on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:23PM (#32445998)
I don't get why people are downvoting you either so here's an upvote to counteract
Re:CEO Shadow Program by jzig on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:25PM (#32446009)
Thanks buddy. I didn’t even say much. It’s very weird.
Re:CEO Shadow Program by waynesonfire on Friday August 12, 2022 @08:56PM (#32445810)
do you ever pause and wonder why that number is of so importance? I noticed my eyes were constantly zooming up and to the right to read the number and after unpacking this I have since removed it from view using a firefox plugin.

Downvote me all you want, it won't silence my thoughts.

Re:CEO Shadow Program by jzig on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:00PM (#32445840)
I don’t care so much about the upper right total (at least not that I have now achieved everything there is to be had by it). But I do sometimes notice individual comments when active in the discourse.
Re:CEO Shadow Program by heavyset_go on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:37PM (#32446091)
For reference for anyone that wants to do this, you can use uBlock Matrix or whatever it's called now to block individual elements on certain websites.