[1] "If you operate a pseudonymous Twitter account, we understand the risks an incident like this can introduce and deeply regret that this happened. To keep your identity as veiled as possible, we recommend not adding a publicly known phone number or email address to your Twitter account."
https://privacy.twitter.com/en/blog/2022/an-issue-affecting-...
This is my 2FA mule:
https://kozubik.com/items/2famule/
There are others like it, but this one is mine.
Whenever I hear things like this, I like to remind people that they should be most concerned about outcomes, not about what satisfies their indignance. I agree that this situation is ridiculous, but being mad about it isn't going to change the state of the world. If you're genuinely worried about giving out your primary phone number for 2FA or account verification purposes, then this is a solution for you. Being pissed at companies for leaking data is not a solution.
To my defense, I didn't argue that being pissed at some company would solve anything :)
I guess it's nice to have the backup, though, in case the local internet connection goes down. The 500MB/mo plan bumps it to just $6/mo.
See my comments elsewhere in thread, but a "VOIP" number is a ridiculously tiny corner case in the world of telco, hence lack of support.
In fact, twilio even started offering special numbers that are flagged and "vouched for" that should be treated as non-VOIP ... but they aren't.
If you really need it to work, it needs to be a number from a physical SIM card.
Realistically, was I being targeted? No. But it's a sad state of affairs that I have to even think about such things. I ended up looking up the company online and finding their contact email address to let them know about the mistake, so they could contact the person directly (which they did, and thanked me).
Good for you. Your refusal and my refusal protect one another, refusing collectively is stronger than refusing alone.
My SMS spam is almost non-existent, compared to others.
But one thing, beyond my desire to not give out my number... it is pointless regardless.
When I worked in office, I had mobile access. At home, a bit rural, my access is nil via 4g/5g. I just have no access.
My mobile forwards after 6 rings to my voip, so that works well. But for SMS auth? Hello! I cannot do that!
I have been an ebay customer for 21, yes 21 years. I can no longer log in, as they now insist I enter a mobile number to continue.
Gee thanks ebay.
(No, SMS won't work via voip, they check numbers, even ported numbers)
21 years. Years of thousands, even >10k spent reliably per year.
Gone as a customer.
Calling paypal support, results in people literally unable to understand ... anything. They repeat a mantra off their screen without deviation. Many cuatomer support people I spoke to, were barely paying attention.
I really don't get it. SMS is barely secure to begin with.
They are willing to throw away accounts, just for pennies on tracking.
21 years.
* Numbers are generally designated when they're created by regulatory agencies as "landline", "mobile", "VOIP", etc.
* You can provision yourself a mobile number in a provider like Twilio or a competitor if you don't like them, and it will have all the capabilities you want
* Thanks to technological advancements, you can do things like overlay mobile capabilities on non-mobile numbers, but only if you're running all of the traffic through a company that has that tech
* "VOIP" numbers are a vanishingly small corner case for these companies and are a pain in the ass to support. They are a tiny portion of the numbering space and lots of smaller Telco companies just won't complete calls or texts to/from VOIP numbers. Companies like Twilio rely on those smaller companies for last-mile completion or origination of calls.
TL;DR Provision yourself a "mobile" number using an API-enabled SaaS telco platform, which you can use exactly how you want, no actual mobile phone needed, with all the capabilities you want. The "VOIP" number will only continue to cause you more and more issues over time.
It does say that short number support is not guaranteed, though.
Somehow, even though you say they ban them, I was able to submit it and get a verification message. Funny how that works, when someone just parrots the same thing without actually trying it out.
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/75yKkFl
It's annoying as hell because I would very much like to sell a thing or two and don't have many platform choices.
> The process to close the account may take up to 30 days from this notice. eBay will send a message to the email address registered on file, confirming that the account has been closed and, unless on hold, restricted, or suspended, that data associated with the account has been deleted.
I am curious if it is because they care slightly less if it's a CA VOIP number, if it came from a decent pool of numbers, or something else. Or if they will lock you out later and force you to contact the "risk assessment" team and use this as a datapoint.
Interestingly it's an old landline number that got ported over to voip.ms, so you'd expect that if it were trusted due to reputation, it'd also only be accepted as a landline. Yet the validation experience has no problem with it.
I don’t have a work number and this is an absurd reason to get one, so we just canceled the account.
> We're aware that some users would much rather prefer not to use SMS for 2FA usage […] this is a known issue
> Please be noted that as of right now, you can only access [TOTP] after submitting a valid phone number. If possible, we'd recommend you just provide a personal phone number as a workaround
I’d already borrowed a coworker’s phone once for the initial account verification, but requiring it multiple times crossed a line.
The /r/twitch subreddit is full of people who think you should absolutely give twitch your phone number for verification (fun fact: Twitch doesn’t even allow you to turn on 2FA until you give them your phone number). Even when a few days later, twitch got their data leaked, they’ll reaffirm that you are an idiot for caring.
And those are users, not even companies.
I do [edit: NOT] use my personal cell number for anything for security reasons, so even after their insistence that it was safe to use I refused and therefore I was unable to get past the first step of the signup process and went with another provider. After reading this I am feeling validated that I didn't cave.