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Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by mocko on Friday August 05, 2022 @05:30AM (#32353665)
It's hard to understand why you'd buy this rather than flashing OpenWRT onto one of thousands of existing routers, most of which have more ports, and can be picked up for less than $55 + the price of a CM4.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by grawp on Friday August 05, 2022 @05:43AM (#32353773)
Because there are not thousands of existing routers supporting openwrt. OpenWRT needs at least 64MB RAM now and most consumer oriented crap which has that amount of RAM is expensive and under same model number you always have revisions galore most of them unsupported and some even of completely different architecture than other revisions.

Many times there is less than 50% chance that you buy a supported revision unless you go with things like Turris Omnia or Raspberry Pi..

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by solarkraft on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:52PM (#32361129)
Flashing it is also not trivial.

... but I do still think it's a good option compared to the WTF-that's-a-lot-for-a-router price of the CM4 one, especially with the current prices.

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by rootsudo on Friday August 05, 2022 @05:55AM (#32353851)
Yea, $55 for a OpenWRT router is hard to find for a quality one that supports/embraces flashing your own firmware and with 64mb+ RAM. Those come in $300-700+ flavors.

Which at that point, a true enterprise solution via ubiquiti or even cisco is affordable.

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by edpenz on Friday August 05, 2022 @06:44AM (#32354203)
There are some real steals if you dig deep enough. Case in point the Xiaomi 4A GbE:

  * $30 (not missing a zero)
  * OpenWRT support
  * 128MB RAM
  * 3 gigabit ethernet ports
  * 802.11ac Wi-Fi
Sure it's not going to compare to a full Raspberry Pi (tiny flash, no USB, no video, no expandability), but for plain routing it's fantastic value.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by nine_k on Friday August 05, 2022 @06:04AM (#32353949)
These more expensive routers usually have at least 4 GBE ports, and two or three wifi radios, capable of beam forming. So it's apples and oranges.

(Mine was a used one, under $100.)

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by forinti on Friday August 05, 2022 @06:41AM (#32354187)
Check out GL.inet.

(I don't work for them, I just like their products)

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by jokowueu on Friday August 05, 2022 @09:35AM (#32355918)
The ubiquity edge router x is about $60+
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by forinti on Friday August 05, 2022 @06:34AM (#32354134)
GL.inet has some very nice little cheap devices that come with openwrt.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by ClumsyPilot on Friday August 05, 2022 @07:57AM (#32354848)
Flint is their newest / highest end router, has about the compute perf. of Pi3, but has WiFi 6.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by joshka on Friday August 05, 2022 @09:58AM (#32356185)
The lagging customized OpenWRT release cycle worries me. My router is the thing I most want to be up to date with patches / fixes.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by suprjami on Friday August 05, 2022 @04:23PM (#32361542)
You can flash upstream owrt to then. You don't have to run the vendor firmware. I buy GL.iNet devices and the first thing I do is flash upstream.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by _ink_ on Friday August 05, 2022 @08:12AM (#32354965)
wow, these look indeed great. I hope I remember these when my current router dies.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by tmikaeld on Friday August 05, 2022 @08:19AM (#32355045)
Why are some of their devices EOL if they use OpenWRT?
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by suprjami on Friday August 05, 2022 @04:25PM (#32361560)
Because companies don't make the same product forever.

Why aren't Ford making the Model T anymore? Why aren't Viewsonic making CRT monitors anymore? etc

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by tmikaeld on Saturday August 06, 2022 @04:16AM (#32366085)
Of course I didn't mean hardware EOL, that I understand, but why discontinue software updates then?
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by suprjami on Saturday August 06, 2022 @06:50AM (#32366887)
Because they're a business, not a charity.

They also do this the right way and upstream device support before they sell the device, so they don't have to support it. Upstream OpenWrt are already doing it.

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by bound008 on Friday August 05, 2022 @09:11AM (#32355596)
One quick reason why not to flash an existing OTS router is RAM.

IMHO most consumer routers need to be reset because they have memory leaks, that reduce the amount of memory available for the routing table. A power cycle becomes the common fix.

Meanwhile 4GB of RAM on PfSense can probably power an office of 50 engineers with 50% of its ram left available (and no swap)... and it will never need to be restarted.

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by amelius on Friday August 05, 2022 @05:57AM (#32353877)
I recently bought a TP-Link travel router and tried to install OpenWRT firmware on it, but it refused the update. I'm afraid more and more routers will have some kind of signature mechanism that will block any third-party updates.

Note: the specific router (TL-WR902AC) has a support page on OpenWRT, but apparently for newer versions it doesn't work.

If this continues, how will OpenWRT remain relevant?

Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by hammyhavoc on Friday August 05, 2022 @08:47AM (#32355300)
It's relevant? I don't know if it's been "relevant" this decade.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by amelius on Friday August 05, 2022 @11:24AM (#32357475)
It's relevant for anybody who wants to run their own flavor of software on their router for whatever reason.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by Moto7451 on Friday August 05, 2022 @06:09AM (#32353975)
It has enough hardware that you could run a few services at once. For example, Pi Hole, a Plex media server, etc. My brother does the above with a much more expensive and less capable Celeron powered Synology NAS.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by Jhsto on Friday August 05, 2022 @07:22AM (#32354545)
UEFI bootloader, PoE support, and generally good Linux driver experience out of the box. Whether that's enough is highly dependent on the user.
Re:$55 board turns a Raspberry Pi CM4 into a router by JKCalhoun on Friday August 05, 2022 @07:40AM (#32354701)
I don't disagree but the headline is calling out the $55.