News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Friday July 29, 2022 @06:29AM (#32275235)
I'm worried. My Pixel 4 will stop receiving updates later this year but the Pixel 6 is huge and the Pixel 7 looks huge too.

Why are screens getting so big? So they can shove more ads?

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by addicted on Friday July 29, 2022 @08:02AM (#32275847)
Because that’s what people buy.

Apple switched to a larger screen size not because they thought it was better but their phones were losing out in showrooms to the larger Galaxy phones.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by JustSomeNobody on Friday July 29, 2022 @08:12AM (#32275920)
> Because that’s what people buy.

Because that's what companies make. There are examples of smaller phones that were not successful, but they sucked for one reason or another.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by hammyhavoc on Sunday July 31, 2022 @06:33AM (#32294638)
Well, when you can't go thinner and lighter without ruining structural integrity and battery life, you go bigger with the screen. Gotta keep people on the upgrade treadmill so they can visually see who is up-to-date, just like the notch.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by wbsss4412 on Friday August 05, 2022 @10:15PM (#32364178)
What sucks about the iPhone mini?
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by pooper on Friday July 29, 2022 @06:50AM (#32275358)
I think it is mostly so we can have bigger batteries. The iPhone SE has a tiny battery by today's standards.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by MereInterest on Friday July 29, 2022 @07:41AM (#32275697)
Except that could easily be achieved by making the phone slightly thicker, instead. When phones are so thin and fragile that a rigid case is practically mandatory, I don't know why "thin" is a selling point.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by pooper on Friday July 29, 2022 @10:28AM (#32277376)
I completely agree with you.

We could solve two problems at once: get rid of a camera bump and make the battery bigger at the same time by using the extra space of the camera bump to house a bigger battery.

Not sure why it hasn't happened yet or if it has I don't know if it.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by MereInterest on Friday July 29, 2022 @08:28PM (#32283190)
My guess is the same reason glossy screens won out over matte screens for laptops: because they look slightly better on the showroom floor, despite the worse real-world performance.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by dr_spicy on Saturday July 30, 2022 @06:06PM (#32290822)
The pixel 1 had a wedge shape for this reason
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Friday July 29, 2022 @07:43AM (#32275721)
Why does the battery size matter? Do we compare car fuel tank sizes? We typically care about how it affects our use of the product. How long can the iPhone SE last on a charge? How does it compare to other iPhones?
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by JustSomeNobody on Friday July 29, 2022 @08:13AM (#32275931)
> Do we compare car fuel tank sizes?

I mean, we kinda do when it comes to EVs.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by alias_neo on Friday July 29, 2022 @09:17AM (#32276444)
This is the key difference.

It takes 60 seconds to fill and fuel tank, it takes 60 minutes (if you're lucky) to fill an EV.

One is an insignificant amount of time, relatively speaking.

The person you're replying to isn't making the right comparison; do we care about waiting/wasting 1 minute vs 60+ minutes?

I sure as shit do.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by craftkiller on Friday July 29, 2022 @02:07PM (#32280073)
> Do we compare car fuel tank sizes

Yes. I can't tell you why they thought it was important, but in my childhood I've heard multiple adults talk about "My car goes <x> miles before a fill-up". Never made sense to me, gas stations are everywhere and filling up is quick.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by dragonwriter on Friday July 29, 2022 @02:10PM (#32280097)
> Never made sense to me, gas stations are everywhere and filling up is quick.

Gas stations are not everywhere, and can be few and far between on certain routes, and more to the point filling up being quick may be the normal conditions, but if you are old enough (or have lived in the right–or maybe wrong would be more accurate–places even without being that old), you have experience of times when filling up has not been quick, or even, on any given day for any given car, necessarily permitted.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by hammyhavoc on Sunday July 31, 2022 @06:34AM (#32294641)
The conversation was probably more relating to how economical it is to drive rather than the size of the tank.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by scohesc on Friday July 29, 2022 @11:05AM (#32277876)
I think it's because more and more people are opting to use phones to consume their media instead of traditional avenues like TV.

Lying in bed, on the bus, in the classroom, etc - less time to sit down in the living room and watch youtube/movies on the TV - especially with the TikTok(/vine?) generation latching onto vertical video formats too.

I think it's just a generational thing - I remember being amazed at how people are consuming vertical video now like it's anything else when 5-10 years ago people would give the cameraman grief for filming this "crazy moment!" in vertical format :P

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by trynewideas on Friday July 29, 2022 @10:45AM (#32277595)
Pixel 6a is 8mm taller and 2mm wider than the Pixel 4. I held out for it until my 3a (which was smaller than the 4) was barely functional anymore.

Zenfone 9 is 2mm taller and 1mm narrower.

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by ProZsolt on Sunday July 31, 2022 @06:29PM (#32299473)
The 3a outer size is bigger than the 4[1]

[1]: https://phonesized.com/compare/#1235,1330

Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by dr_kiszonka on Friday July 29, 2022 @07:49AM (#32275768)
The "a" versions may be a tad smaller, but probably not as small as your current phone.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by Xeoncross on Friday July 29, 2022 @10:51AM (#32277686)
Install calyxos.org on your phone and give it new life.
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by hammyhavoc on Sunday July 31, 2022 @06:35AM (#32294650)
Do banking apps et al work?
Re:Asus Zenfone 9 by Xeoncross on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @02:46PM (#32402167)
yes, I haven't found an app that doesn't work, but I use less than a hundred of them.