An Anglo-Irish person asks: Post independence, was Éire a model civil rights respecting polity?

Rather than leaning in to what looks like nationalist anti-English racism, have you considered how other European countries behaved during the 1000 years of history you referred to?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_nationalism_in_Europe

More recently:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Ukraine

I mean, the claim of "home rule is rome rule" was justified in the sense of the Catholic Church dictating much social policy until the 80s, but at the same time, the Irish government did not set up the voting system to disadvantage one religious or ethnic grouping, yet the Northern Irish government did. Your comment comes across as whataboutism.

> have you considered how other European countries behaved during the 1000 years of history you referred to?

I this this is whataboutism and unhelpful. They were all terrible and not being the worst is not a badge of honour.

By modern standards everyone before us is in some way terrible.

You have to award some credit for being a bit ahead of the crowd.

> the English intrusion into Ireland is full of heinous murders

so were the Scottish plantations, but thats counter to the narrative.

> from the massacres of Drogheda

The civil war was utterly destructive, the scale of murder rape and pillage was astronomical. The wars of the three kingdoms were ripped apart. it wasn't until well into charles II that things settled.

look, we have a choice. We can either rake over tensions, or try and forge peace. Yes the troubles were _heinous_. the UK did nasty shit, but its not like the provos were golden angels either.

I am sorry for what the UK did. But I have no control over history, only now. We can either work together to stop another generation loose their male relatives, or slide into another civil war. Yes, we must acknowledge what happened, but we cannot let it define our collective fates.

And who is it, in this world that is innocent of such things 1000 generations of history complete?

The IRA. Pure scumbags.

Gerry Adams condones the murder Lord Mountbatten, and very likely ordered it. Why isn't he in jail?

Here's what they sing:

“13 dead and not forgotten, we got 18 and Mountbatten.”

Vile song mocks the murder of Michaela McAreavey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi3jCBT-Yhs&ab_channel=Newst...

He was alleged by many, including the FBI, to have been a paedophile with a penchant for boys in uniform

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19731909.lord-darkne...

So just like Liam Adams? Takes one to know one, I guess.

Bad actors on both sides.

Yes. but we have to actively try and heal these wounds.

We cannot let another generation restart an active war. We've had 25 years without an active bombing or driveby shooting campaign. almost an entire generation has grown up with their male relatives still being alive.

we cannot allow that cycle to be triggered again, its just not worth it.

It's been decades since that's been a common chant. Anyone I know from the North would be horrified by it these days.