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Re:America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of... by bmitc on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @03:25PM (#32156670)
> I think everything is just generally "nicer".

That's an interesting perspective that I wouldn't have expected. I didn't grow up anywhere near the 50s, but I feel like everything is worse from even my childhood in the 90s and 2000s. Malls are decrepit, national and state parks are under maintained but overrun with visitors, stadium seats could not be smaller (and are often so vertical in the "affordable" seats it creates vertigo sensations), parking lots are full of gigantic cracks and poorly marked areas and holes, theme parks are under maintained and expensive with huge lines and many from my childhood closed down, and it goes on and on. I went to an NFL game (only because I got free tickets). It took around 45 minutes from our car in the parking lot (not including the time to be directed to park), in a lot that I'm pretty sure was not paved at all, to get to our seats. The seats were so high up, we could barely see anything. We might as well have been watching from a nearby skyscraper. And the seats were sardine seats, as in sitting sideways so as to not hit the people in front of you with your knees. Those seats probably cost those around me hundreds of dollars.

It's also well known that many people from those older times had rents and mortgages at much smaller percentages of their monthly income than those today, whereas today they can exceed 50% easily.

Re:America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of... by Melatonic on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @04:03PM (#32157195)
Some things are definitely nicer and some are not. Malls are worse maybe overall but there are some that are also extremely nice now. And is it not also a huge improvement that you can just easily order something from ease at home without having to go to a crowded mall in the first place?

The housing thing though for sure is a problem. Then again we are now concentrating more and more in big cities.

The one thing people always miss with these calculations is food. We think food is expensive now but the cost of chicken or beef is insanely cheap relative to really what it should be (or what it once was). A steak in the 1920s was probably a real treat.

Re:America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of... by locust101 on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @06:59PM (#32159080)
https://www.in2013dollars.com/Beef-and-veal/price-inflation

It has gone up 4.12% per year compared to regular food inflation rate of 3.56%. So no it is not cheaper.

Re:America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of... by mbfg on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:43PM (#32158377)
for interest, looked it up.

In 1950, porterhouse steak was $0.95 per pound.

Re:America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of... by code_biologist on Thursday July 21, 2022 @12:04AM (#32175663)
Is that inflation adjusted? At least according to usinflationcalculator.com, $0.95 of 1950 dollars is $29.93 in 2022 dollars.

Edit: the bls.gov inflation calculator says $0.95 of 1950 dollars is $11.98 in 2022 dollars. :shrug:

Re:America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of... by bombcar on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @04:48PM (#32157752)
Malls are just ... dead - there are a few that are kept up and maintained but very, very few new ones being built.
Re:America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of... by Terr_ on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:48PM (#32158419)
Specifically thinking about nostalgic air-travel, perhaps some things seem lower-quality because they simply cost less (after inflation adjustments) than before.

That said I still wouldn't dare suggest a 1:1 relationship between the trends.