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Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by bluefirebrand on Monday July 18, 2022 @10:20AM (#32138709)
I would love to get a job building internal tools that my company needs and uses but I haven't had any luck actually finding those kinds of jobs, so I always wind up building products.

Any advice on how to find those kinds of positions?

Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by pc86 on Monday July 18, 2022 @10:49AM (#32139043)
Connect with a recruiter (or five) and tell them that's what you want. They exist to act as a filter, and if you work with several from multiple companies/geographies in addition to doing your own searching, you'll eventually find what you're looking for.
Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by cholantesh on Monday July 18, 2022 @12:23PM (#32140098)
In my experience, recruiters basically keep your name and skillset on record and don't take into account any of your other wants/needs.
Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by pc86 on Monday July 18, 2022 @01:16PM (#32140716)
You've worked with shitty recruiters, which is to be expected because most of them are.

Some of them are great and they're the ones worth keeping in touch with.

Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by bluefirebrand on Monday July 18, 2022 @12:31PM (#32140173)
I'm honestly surprised how many don't even seem to take your skillset into consideration.

You don't have to know much about programming languages to know that if none of the words on my resume match the ones in the job listing, it's probably not a good match.

Maybe I need to be more clear that while I'm willing to learn new tech for a job, I probably don't want jobs where I have to learn an entire new stack just to get started.

Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by mriet on Monday July 18, 2022 @01:29PM (#32140851)
Agreed -- and, even worse, in my experience they don't even know about more than 20% of the opportunities.
Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by mouzogu on Monday July 18, 2022 @02:08PM (#32141397)
connecting with recruiters is a meme.

they're basically glorified salespeople. they would only reply to you if they thought there was quick money to be made.

Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by CornCobs on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @04:25AM (#32148903)
I ended up in this current position because I was first interested in their field of work (geospatial work), and secondly skilled in programming. Even if I weren't a programmer I would probably work for them in some other capacity.

I don't feel qualified giving advice but personally I think I would look beyond what is commonly considered "tech". As another poster mentioned, everyone uses tech. When a company's work is sufficiently complex or special, chances are they may not rely on external vendors 100%.

Really out of my depth here but maybe some types of firms where I think there could be some interesting stuff internally:

- engineering - analytics - games - graphics/animations

Re:Ask HN: I love programming but hate the industry. Can any... by aprdm on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @11:33PM (#32161085)
Vfx industry